Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith

That's like the old joke about the teacher who graded papers by throwing them down the stairs.

We've only known to fly for a hundred years or so. We've only known how to go to the moon for fifty years or so. We've only known about nuclear energy for a hundred years or so. We've only known about electricity for a couple of hundred years.So the length of time that we've known something has nothing to do with whether it's true or not.

Have you ever read The Lord of the Rings? It has a lot of genealogies, to rival the Bible. All made up.

But as I pointed out in your quotes from 2012, there is no confirmation from outside the Bible. Even if the Bible was internally consistent - and it is not - there's still no reason to think that it's accurate without outside support. Any book can be called 'inerrant" if you don't compare it with the facts. Clearly not. In other threads just recently, Faith has rejected the word-for-word reading in favour of the twisted logic of apologists.

There's nothing "supposed" about it. There's evidence. You lose that battle every time you bring it up.

Have you read them? In what way do they not rival the Bible?

Nonsense. The reality of the character has nothing, nothing, nothing to do with what the words say.

That reflects the limits of your imagination more than anything else.

Nonsense. You can have words without characters. Do you think the U.S. Constitution or the Declaration of Independence or the Magna Carta is "empty" just because they're not being recited by Long John Silver? That would be Gladiator. Again, nonsense. The words would be just as inspiring written down, with no fictional character to verbalize them. Consider Thomas Paine's Common Sense, which did a lot to inspire the American Revolution. Often the words borrowed by the leader are as important as the leader himself. Nonsense. The early Church (see Ananias and Sapphira) did exactly that.

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Matthew 18:2-3 And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

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That's the problem.When something good happens, you give God the credit but when something bad happens, you blame us.

And I am not optimistic at all about some alien overlord whispering in people's ears to "save" humanity. Y'know why? Because it ain't workin'. Believers are not better people than unbelievers.On the other hand, auto-correction is working.

Your own quotes say that God creates evil. How do you reconcile justice with evil?

That doesn't address the issue. You're saying that God is just all of the time and evil part of the time. That seems to imply that justice can be evil. That isn't a very attractive justice.

Causing calamities is evil.

Everybody has subjective experiences. All individual experiences are subjective. Something happened (whether in reality or in your imagination). The error is in concluding, "It must be Zeus." No you didn't. You can not validate your own perceptions.