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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Looking at the times given in Gen for Noah in the flood, and looking at Revelation we do see a 360 day year actually.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Your dates for civilizations are all based on the same belief. You thought belief was science?
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Yes we see a lot of things in this nature. You see squat in the former nature, but simply believe it was the same.
Religion.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. It would mean that something changed that affected how long a day was. Could a changed distance from earth to sun do it?
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Or show nature was the same. Believe what you like.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
If trees grew in weeks in the former nature, tree rings have no meaning then as they now would in regards to age. Except bt faith alone.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Do we know for sure how to interpret the very earliest hieroglyphs?
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Nothing in your link addresses the issue of what nature the trees grew in. Therefore no correlation is possible with anything but this nature. Ha.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
It counts rings as if they were all grown in this nature. Correlations follow accordingly....religion.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
The issue is what the C14 means. If you blindly believe in a same nature in the past, then the meaning becomes one thing. If we admit we do not know the nature in the past you cannot attribute present nature meaning on the C14...or anything else.
When was the change you asked? Probably about the same time as the tower of Babel, in the days of Peleg.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
It is a fact C14 exists, that is true, but as mentioned the issue is what it means. Without first proving a same state past, you cannot claim it means anything.
Yes, C14 levels change over time. The issue is in what nature do they change? We can start by looking at measurements you claim for the rings on a tree beyond the 4500 mark!!! Let's see the C14 correlation exactly there...as nowhere else really matters. By the way I see you mentioned Egypt, so show us a way to date ancient Egypt that does not in any way involve present nature decay rates? Ha.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
The C14 pattern also could mean that a different nature existed in which C14 was not produced the same way or involve the same time. By the way did you show specifically the rings with the C14 to ring ratio for rings only beyond 4500 deep?
I do not need to prove your religion is wrong. I do not need to prove your same nature in the future and past is bogus. You need to prove it existed or you cannot use it in models! Do tell us what Shaw uses to date Egypt! Ha. I can see why you only alluded to a link. Edited by creation, : No reason given.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Now you resort to king lists for dates!!!!?? Hilarious. They admit they are not good for dates. There are spirits listed as early leaders in Egypt. Offering the king lists we now have to believe in the spooks!!? This is science?
Face it, you have one way only, the religious same nature in the past belief based so called radioactive decay dates. So much for your informed links claims. As for any claim of any nature in the past, including the one you use...forget about it. Prove it first or it is a belief.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Nice to see the positions drawn clearly in the sand. I believe science is wrong and that a year will be 360 days, and that it also was in the early part of history of man. I seem to recall other civilizations also used this, no? If so...the evidence mounts.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. My position is that God is right, and what you believe is right contrary to that do not matter.
I cannot say for certain a year was 360 days in the past here. I can say God uses it, so it probably is how it was, and is how it will be. You better cool your little jets in thinking science can fight it's way out of a fishbowl. Game on.
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