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caffeine
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Message 533 of 1677 (841223)
10-09-2018 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 531 by Faith
10-09-2018 2:52 PM


Re: loving God
Interesting memory. Hard to see how that mistake could have happened.
abe: Dare I suggest it was fudged by someone with a "liberal" bias, somehow conflating the two parts into one, because loving neighbor is more like social justice than loving God. ?
I wouldn't have said liberal bias, but I did suspect at the time that the religious message was being tailored to be more palatable for a secular generation.
Not how I would have worded it when I was 16.
Edited by caffeine, : No reason given.

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caffeine
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Message 534 of 1677 (841224)
10-09-2018 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 532 by Percy
10-09-2018 3:28 PM


Re: pizza
You should either retract the claim, defend it, or stop posting about it. My guess is you'll do none of these.
I think deleting her post on second thoughts counts as stopping posting about it.

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caffeine
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Message 563 of 1677 (841348)
10-11-2018 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 558 by Faith
10-11-2018 2:34 PM


Re: loving God
We don't call the death penalty homicide
To put on my nitpick hat, yes we do. Homicide is someone killing someone else. From Farlex's free legal dictionary discussion of homicides that are not criminal:
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A homicide may be justifiable or excusable by the surrounding circumstances. In such cases, the homicide will not be considered a criminal act. A justifiable homicide is a homicide that is commanded or authorized by law. For instance, soldiers in a time of war may be commanded to kill enemy soldiers. Generally, such killings are considered justifiable homicide unless other circumstances suggest that they were not necessary or that they were not within the scope of the soldiers' duty. In addition, a public official is justified in carrying out a death sentence because the execution is commanded by state or federal law.

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caffeine
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Message 568 of 1677 (841354)
10-11-2018 3:04 PM
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10-11-2018 2:54 PM


Re: loving God
I'm not talking about some kind of prissy pedantic legal definition, I'm talking about how ordinary people talk about these things. Yikes, why can't a simple point get recognized around here?
But I think in this case it's more than just a prissy and pedantic definition. Homicide is only really a legal term; and it refers to killing people. Then there are all kinds of different types of homicide depending on whether it's justified and whether it's intentional.
Genocide is killing a whole people, rather than just individuals. You seem to be invoking some kind of concept of justifiable genocide; but it's clearly still genocide. We are obviously having difficulty with conceiving what could justify genocide; and the Bible passages quoted don't shed much light on this.

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