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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi Jon,
Jon writes: (This sort of thing happens, except for the location. It's difficult to do using atomic clocks because you have to account for relativistic effects from differences in altitude and velocity). Do you have to allow for any relativistic effects if the atomic clock is in the lab with you?
Jon writes: While looking stuff up I found Wikipedia: hour Does any numbers you or anyone could come up with change the duration between sunrise and sunrise? I say no. Does any numbers you came up with change the duration between events in existence? I say no.
Jon writes: There are actually three slightly different systems in use; which one you use is decided by convenience. Two of those definitions say the units of time we use is defined by the rotation of the earth relative to the sun. My definition of time. Time is a concept developed by mankind to measure the duration between events in existence (eternity). Jon I would like to know what you have to measure while doing an experiment other than duration between two or more events in that experiment. Other than ingredients. God Bless, "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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JonF Member (Idle past 168 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
What are Jesons
Infinitesimal Jesus's holding all the subatomic particles in the Universe in place. There's a picture but I can't find it now. Why do you think my definition is wrong for relativistic analysis?[/qs]
For the reason I gave in the message to which you replied. Expanding, in relativistic analysis, time is just a coordinate in space-time. There is no duration. There is the "interval", which subsumes what we call duration.
But you can not measure time.
Interesting question, but no answer is required to know that we are measuring something. As when we measure the rate at which an object falls. Did Galileo know what he was measuring?
If you think so explain what it is that you are actually measuring.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
That's the point. The red in the lens is not inherently "red". The lens transmits the red wavelengths of the white light that you shine into it. When those red wavelengths hit a white sheet, it reflects back some of them. That shows that the colour of the sheet is determined by the light that it reflects. If the sheet was inherently "white", how could red light make it look pink? So what gives? I thought the red light shining on the cloth would make it look as red as the red ochres made into dye and applied would.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
I described an actual flagpole.
That means she would have to loosen 4 nuts to be able to remove and lay the flag pole down. ICANT writes:
Which is why the woman did it the easy way. Now if you used an 18' pole the tape would be hard to control at full height. The point of the story is that length and height are the same thing. We can put the x, y and z dimensions of a 3D object in any order of length, height and width. I brought it up because you seem to be very confused about measurement.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
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Edited by ringo, : Wifi acting up.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo
ringo writes: I described an actual flagpole. I haven't seen a flag pole yet that was not fastened to something above ground that was anchored in the ground or the part of the pole was buried in the ground. So you would need to give quite a bit more information. I used one I am familiar with.
ringo writes: Which is why the woman did it the easy way. For a 14' 8" pole she did it the hard way. You could measure that pole with a 25' tape with no problem. No disassembly of the pole to lay it on the ground.
ringo writes: The point of the story is that length and height are the same thing. So the Empire State Building is 1,454 ft in length to the tip. The Eiffel Tower is 984 ft in length. I don't find that description of either.
ringo writes: I brought it up because you seem to be very confused about measurement. I am not so confused that I do not know that a rectangle box has length, width and height. God Bless"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: That shows that the colour of the sheet is determined by the light that it reflects. quote:is white a color - Google Search God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi Jon,
Jon writes: Infinitesimal Jesus's holding all the subatomic particles in the Universe in place. There's a picture but I can't find it now. That is not necessary I think scientist calls what holds the universe together Dark Energy. So all Jesus does is supply the energy to hold it together. Remember He is all energy literally all everything.
Jon writes: space-time. space-time does not exist, there is only existence.
Jon writes: Interesting question, but no answer is required to know that we are measuring something. As when we measure the rate at which an object falls. Did Galileo know what he was measuring? If you are measuring something you have to know what you are measuring it with. I don't know if Galileo knew he was trying to measure the duration from release to stop. But I will assume he was trying to figure out how long it took from the time he turned it loose until it stopped. He was a smart man. "John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
That agrees with what I said. The pink colour of the sheet is caused by the reflected red wavelengths. When white light shines on the sheet, all wavelengths are reflected. "In physics, a color is visible light with a specific wavelength. Black and white are not colors because they do not have specific wavelengths. Instead, white light contains all wavelengths of visible light. Black, on the other hand, is the absence of visible light."And our geese will blot out the sun.
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JonF Member (Idle past 168 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
space-time does not exist, there is only existence. If you are measuring something you have to know what you are measuring it with.
Yes, but you do not have to know the fundamental nature of what you are measuring.
If you are measuring something you have to know what you are measuring it with.
Yes he was, but that wasn't the point of the experiments. They were about gravity. He did not know what gravity or time are at a fundamental level. And yet he measured both. It seems reasonable that when you can measure something repeatedly, replicate measurements and experiments, and develop a coherent theory of how it acts exists whether or not we know what that something is. I don't know if Galileo knew he was trying to measure the duration from release to stop. But I will assume he was trying to figure out how long it took from the time he turned it loose until it stopped. He was a smart man. As Galileo didn't know and we still don't know despite knowing a lot more about them.
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ringo Member (Idle past 412 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
And I didn't say there was such a thing.
I haven't seen a flag pole yet that was not fastened to something above ground that was anchored in the ground or the part of the pole was buried in the ground. ICANT writes:
I've told that joke many times and nobody but you has ever had any trouble understanding it. There's plenty of information.
So you would need to give quite a bit more information. ICANT writes:
So did I.
I used one I am familiar with. ICANT writes:
How do you propose to line up the end of your tape measure with the top of the pole from 14' - 8" away?
You could measure that pole with a 25' tape with no problem. ICANT writes:
What you fail to find doesn't change reality.
I don't find that description of either. ICANT writes:
But you seem to be confused enough not to understand that the three dimensions are interchangeable. If I ask for a box that's 12" wide and 16" long, it doesn't matter if you make it 12" long and 16" wide instead. All I have to do is rotate it 90. I am not so confused that I do not know that a rectangle box has length, width and height.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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I've told that joke many times and nobody but you has ever had any trouble understanding it. There's plenty of information.
what you're missing is that ICANT is either incapable of honest discussion or has a condition that prevents abstract thought.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi Jon,
Jon writes: Yes, but you do not have to know the fundamental nature of what you are measuring. We measure duration between events with a clock of some type that is based on seconds, minutes, hours etc. We measure distance from one place to another with a system of fractions of inches, inches, feet, yards, miles, etc. You can't swap the two methods so you do need to understand a little about what you are measuring. The method of measuring volume would not work on either distance or duration.
Jon writes: They were about gravity. So Galileo was trying to figure out why something dropped. That should have been a no brainer. The air was not thick enough to hold it up. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.5 |
Hi ringo,
ringo writes: That agrees with what I said. The pink colour of the sheet is caused by the reflected red wavelengths. When white light shines on the sheet, all wavelengths are reflected. I used a light that had a red bulb and red lens to get the pink reflection on the white cloth. I can put the Red ochre on the white cloth and it will not cause the surrounding area to reflect pink. In fact white will begin at the edge of the red ochre. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8 |
I can put the Red ochre on the white cloth and it will not cause the surrounding area to reflect pink
do you understand the red ochre is not light? do you have a grade school education of physics or should we really start dumbing it down for you? 0. cloth and ochre are different materials and therefore have different properties.1. the cloth is reflecting white light, that is why it looks white. 2. when you shine a red light on the white cloth some of the red is getting reflected back at you. 3. when you expose red ochre to white light, you get a large amount of red light reflected back at you. It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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