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Message 1091 of 2073 (840823)
10-04-2018 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1090 by ringo
10-04-2018 12:05 PM


Re: nature of time
Creationism is the belief in God creating everything. You should not confuse some historical attempts at explaining how the evidences fit with a creation, with creation itself.
Men of science who believed also in creation tried to use the science they knew to explain it. They had the limit of having to work within the belief based paradigm of science.
Creation is too big for science regardless of whether men of science try to use it to know about the works of God.
My approach has been more one of looking at the real premises and fundamental core beliefs that are used in origin sciences.

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Message 1092 of 2073 (840824)
10-04-2018 3:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1089 by 1.61803
10-04-2018 12:04 PM


Re: nature of time
GPS near earth has zero to do with time in deep space. Now, you must show us exactly how your article even relates to the issue.

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Message 1093 of 2073 (840826)
10-04-2018 3:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1088 by Tanypteryx
10-04-2018 2:04 AM


Re: nature of time
Dark stuff is an invention, born out of a need to prop up the belief based models of science.
You might as well teach Jack in the Beanstalk in schools as science.

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Message 1095 of 2073 (840830)
10-04-2018 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 1087 by Tanypteryx
10-04-2018 1:49 AM


Re: nature of time
No. The distance to NO star is known. Parallax is unable to give any far distances. Parallax assumes time and space exists the same and draws a line based on that belief that is supposed to represent distance.

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Message 1101 of 2073 (840908)
10-05-2018 12:02 PM
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10-04-2018 4:34 PM


Re: nature of time
Using a base line from this solar system consisting of millions of miles of space...and time.
Using trig to make the line to the star equal with the base line is using belief that there is time and space at all points that are the same. That is religion with a trig dress on.

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Message 1102 of 2073 (840909)
10-05-2018 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1096 by ringo
10-04-2018 3:46 PM


Re: nature of time
You have not even really addressed the issues let alone offered anything to refute.
You offer religion and beliefs and attitude.
Creation believers have the right and duty to question whacked out worldly wise men making weird and baseless anti creation claims.

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Message 1105 of 2073 (840956)
10-05-2018 11:21 PM
Reply to: Message 1104 by JonF
10-05-2018 12:20 PM


Re: nature of time
I am right you are wrong. Feel free to demonstrate how parallax trig does not use a base line from the solar system. Ha.

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Message 1106 of 2073 (840957)
10-05-2018 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 1103 by ringo
10-05-2018 12:14 PM


Re: nature of time
Empty blather aside, feel free to post some point that you can actually support and discuss. This is not a thread about trying to sound tuff.

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Message 1109 of 2073 (841119)
10-08-2018 9:58 AM
Reply to: Message 1104 by JonF
10-05-2018 12:20 PM


swat
Look it up...a parallax measure has a base line. If you claim otherwise, do more than buzz around.

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Message 1111 of 2073 (841180)
10-09-2018 12:09 AM
Reply to: Message 1108 by JonF
10-06-2018 1:55 PM


Re: nature of time
Feel free to show a source. But since no distance to the SN is known, it is silly to try and use a distance from it!!!!

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Message 1113 of 2073 (841304)
10-11-2018 9:22 AM
Reply to: Message 1112 by JonF
10-09-2018 9:17 AM


Re: nature of time
From your link
"All methods, however,
are indirect in that they all depend on the calibration of other distance
indicators, and, therefore, have only a statistical value. Moreover, different
distance indicators appear to give discordant results that are not compatible
with each other, thus making the distance issue very slippery"
In layman terms this means all so called distances are circular religion. You lose.

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Message 1116 of 2073 (841379)
10-11-2018 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1114 by Tanypteryx
10-11-2018 12:05 PM


Re: nature of time
Yes. I do.

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Message 1117 of 2073 (841380)
10-11-2018 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1115 by JonF
10-11-2018 1:29 PM


Re: nature of time
How can you claim time is the same in the radius line? Or any line!? That is just another way to try and graph time and space as a line that is supposed to be distance. perhaps you should change distance to 'apparent fishbowl based distance'

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Message 1123 of 2073 (841430)
10-12-2018 5:46 PM
Reply to: Message 1118 by Tanypteryx
10-11-2018 11:39 PM


Re: nature of time
You think you know.

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Message 1124 of 2073 (841431)
10-12-2018 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 1121 by Stile
10-12-2018 10:06 AM


Re: O M G
Christmas in the fishbowl comes in our time.

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