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creation Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Feel free to show a source. But since no distance to the SN is known, it is silly to try and use a distance from it!!!!
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Feel free to show a source. SN1987AA Geometric Determination of the Distance to SN 1987A and the LMC And many, many, many more.
But since no distance to the SN is known
Ah, the invincible ignorance of the fundy. Knowing absolutely nothing about the subject you pontificate as if you were the expert. You aren't.
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creation Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
From your link
"All methods, however,are indirect in that they all depend on the calibration of other distance indicators, and, therefore, have only a statistical value. Moreover, different distance indicators appear to give discordant results that are not compatible with each other, thus making the distance issue very slippery" In layman terms this means all so called distances are circular religion. You lose.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4444 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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In layman terms this means all so called distances are circular religion. You lose. How ironic that a religious person doesn't know the definition of religion or winning.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Learn to read. The paragraph following the one you quoted makes it clear that the paragraph you quoted refers to methods other than the one they used on SN1987A.
quote: I did leave something out; the other method of directly measuring the distance to SN1987A. Page Not Found | Department of Chemistry Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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creation Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Yes. I do.
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creation Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
How can you claim time is the same in the radius line? Or any line!? That is just another way to try and graph time and space as a line that is supposed to be distance. perhaps you should change distance to 'apparent fishbowl based distance'
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4444 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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That is just another way to try and graph time and space as a line that is supposed to be distance. Yep. And we know exactly how to piss off ignorant creationists. There's fewer and fewer of you though.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4444 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Yes. I do. Trust me, you are seriously mistaken. So far, everything you have written proves it.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
It doesn't matter if time differs on the radius line. Read the last link I gave.
And we have strong evidence that time is the same on the radius line, because several radioactive elements decayed at the same rate as they do on Earth.. ESA - Radioactive decay of titanium powers supernova remnantConstraints on stellar yields and SNe from gamma-ray line observations - [PDF Document]
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined:
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I heard the other day that Christmas is over 2 months away.
But how do they know?? No one's ever been into the future before. We haven't even sent a probe one millisecond into the future!Since we only know where we've physically been... the fishbowl ends at the present time. Predicting the future is extending our fishbowl! Time could act differently 2 months from meow.Time could act differently seconds from now! Christmas could be tomorrow... it could be 10 years from now.How can we know that time will act the same if we've never been there before? This is crazy talk, people. Wake up!! Your religious belief that Christmas is 2 months away is nuts! I'm buying presents right now.For the next 10 Christmases. Because I can only act within the fishbowl!! What a loony.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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But what a fool believes, he sees
No wise man has the power to reason away What seems to be Is always better than nothing Than nothing at all "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs |
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creation Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
You think you know.
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creation Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Christmas in the fishbowl comes in our time.
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creation Member (Idle past 1970 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. The decay happens/is seen only here. Here in our time. So just because something here takes X amount of time to decay does not mean it does there. You just believed it had to be that way for no real reason.
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