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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
No. In creation week days existed before the sun and moon.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9512 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Creation writes: No. In creation week days existed before the sun and moon. Sure, and the cow jumped over the moon.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
ICANT writes:
And that has nothing to do with what I've been discussing. What I am saying is that mankind is the one who determines the length of duration between events in existence. And we devised a pretty good system to do that.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
creation writes:
No, fountains do not have ebbs and flows. There is no indication in the Bible of that. Too bad the founts of the deep had ebbs and flows you may confuse for tides eh?And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Aussie Member Posts: 275 From: FL USA Joined: |
I don't really know what color it is. I only know it matches what I have been told is black. Hi ICANT, I suspect you are a bit smarter than you are letting on. You are basically telling us that you have no more knowledge of your eye than the average person a thousand years ago. The modern middle school student knows about primary colors, what they are, and that black and white are not technically colors. I have a seven year old daughter who has read children's Q&A books that have dealt with this topic. I'm being serious here: If you are as ignorant of color as you are letting on (pretending to be???) my first grader has already acquired more physics in this area than you have over your entire life. This is really sad. ICANT or IWONT? "...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"
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Aussie Member Posts: 275 From: FL USA Joined: |
ICANT says in message 1099:
God went on to say the evening of that first light period (which we find at Genesis 1:2) with the period of darkness that ended with the following morning (sunrise) was "Day One". creation says in message 1111:
No. In creation week days existed before the sun and moon. Can you guys maybe private chat for a while and get back to us when you decide if the sun, or the first morning sunrise came first please?Then maybe this conversation will make a little more sense... Edited by Aussie, : No reason given."...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"
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Aussie Member Posts: 275 From: FL USA Joined: |
Since God is light it has never been dark where He is. Again, I'm really struggling to understand you here. I mean, what do you mean by "Dark?" I'm not being facetious here; you literally don't even know what color is...why would we expect you to be able to hold an intelligent conversation on light and darkness? They are all interrelated. If enough reflected photons of varying frequencies fall on the photo-receptors in your retina, they will stimulate your frequency-sensitive Cones, which send nervous impulses to your brain, which interprets those frequencies as color. If the photon density is sufficiently low, (Like when your side of the planet is pointed away from the sun) it will not be reflected back to your retina strongly enough to trigger that signal to your brain...so you won't be able to see. But there are lots of types of light that you can't see; radio waves, microwaves, infrared, ultraviolet, x-rays, gamma... these are all "Light;" they are all electromagnetic radiation, just like the rays of sunshine you see with. So what are you saying about God? It seems you don't know enough to separate the physical from the spiritual. I mean, I can understand if you mean God is "Light" in some metaphorical or allegorically abstract sense. Humans are not naturally nocturnal, and we have historically ventured into the night at our own peril. What we call pitch darkness is no impediment to a wide range of nocturnal predators with eyes far better suited to low levels of illumination than us, and these predators have targeted us, and eaten well. We have a deep, species-level memory of this, and it's natural for us to associate darkness with "Bad things" and sunshine, when we can see and avoid, with "Better things." So I get the "Spiritual light" angle. Whatever non-physical radiance he is generating. No bad things can hide, general feelings of safety, etc. But you said " Since God is light it has never been dark where He is..." in the middle of a conversation about actual daytime and nighttime. Are you suggesting that God is sending out Electromagnetic radiation? Because this is confusing. Physical light of all wavelengths is physical, not spiritual. God, in this case, would belong to physics, and we will be able to observe and measure this radiance. Or in this case, radiation.We could SEE HIM, and measure the intensity of this light. Of any wavelength. Edited by Aussie, : No reason given."...heck is a small price to pay for the truth"
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi creation,
creation writes: Yes we all know the current reality of orbits. The issue is the reality in the past. What difference does it make to us what the orbits were in the past? We don't live in the past. We live in the now and they support our life system as they are today so who cares what they were on the past? God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6
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Hi creation,
creation writes: Too bad the founts of the deep had ebbs and flows you may confuse for tides eh? Springs don't have ebbs and flows. They are water under pressure coming out of the ground and therefore only have flows. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi creation,
creation writes: No. In creation week days existed before the sun and moon. You sound like a young earth creationist. Where did the light of "Day One" come from? Do you believe the Hebrew word ברא and עשה are the same word? Do they look like the same word? Well they are not and they do not mean the same thing. The Hebrew word ברא is pronounced bra and means create and has God as the subject of the verb which it is. The Hebrew word עשה is pronounced ash and means made. But the Hebrew word יעש actually used in the original text means do work. Since the sun moon and stars are part of the universe they were created in Genesis 1:1 when the rest of the universe was created. But due to the darkness over the face of the earth they could not shine through and be seen from the earth. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Aussie,
Aussie writes:
I suspect you are a bit smarter than you are letting on. I doubt that as my memory is getting slow and weak, that is what happens when you get old. I do know that darkness is the absence of light.I also know that light is the absence of darkness. Different colors are produced by the different sensations on the eye produced as a result of the way the object reflects or emits light. Some people don't see colors as you do. Without light there is no color period. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. With the capabilities of the human body how can anyone believe in evolution. It is the most advanced piece of machinery that has ever been created. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hi Aussie,
Aussie writes: Then maybe this conversation will make a little more sense... creation can say anything he wants to say just as I can. But it makes no difference what either of us says. The only thing that matters is what God says. But creation and myself are too many billions of years apart in what we understand the Bible to say about creation. I could probably come to agreement with you a lot quicker. God Bless,
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ICANT Member Posts: 6769 From: SSC Joined: Member Rating: 1.6 |
Hu Aussie
Aussie writes: Again, I'm really struggling to understand you here. I mean, what do you mean by "Dark?" I'm not being facetious here; you literally don't even know what color is...why would we expect you to be able to hold an intelligent conversation on light and darkness? They are all interrelated. Light and darkness are not interrelated. They can not exist in the same place or space. Light is the absence of darkness. Darkness is the absence of light. Color is the different sensations on the eye as a result of the way the object reflects or emits light. Some people don't see light like you do. So how do you know that what you see as red is really red. Your eyes could be fooling you. As far as that goes what difference does it make what color something is? So color is what you perceive it to be. God Bless,"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Eve was made too, no?
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creation Member (Idle past 1971 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Fountains from the inner earth that had a pattern of watering the earth at certain times were not springs. There was different times of the day, for example the cool of the day. No rain. So it is logical to assume some founts would have some ebb and flow.
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