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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
False. When spirits are included in almost all beliefs, that is compatible. The issue of what they did, and which ones were good and bad is beside the point. People teaching that they know there were no spirits are liars, and uniformed, ignorant false teachers.
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Porkncheese Member (Idle past 288 days) Posts: 198 From: Australia Joined:
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True... The truth, will anyone ever know? Not in our lifetime
Cos im doing engineering its all black and white. Mathematics confirms nearly everything for us and we cannot proceed to the next step unless we're absolutely know its correct cos its being applied. U know wat i mean. My doubts lie in Atheist Biology. All the big wigs are Atheist. They have this theory so, they look to try and confirm that theory. I don't like that approach. Cherry pick the data that fits and discard the rest. And these big wigs like Dawkins go around doing lectures on bashing religion. Why. Your a scientist. Stop entertaining the religious folk. Just talk science only. It looks suss Then in an interview I heard him admit the possibility of extraterrestrial creation. Like WTF. How can I believe this guy. Unless there is a logic i can't see. If one type of creation is possible then wouldn't all types of creation be possible? Accepting Dawkins rhetoric is impossible given how hard it is to convince me of anything. LoL. I don't trust him. Thats why I have little faith in the theory Edited by Porkncheese, : No reason given.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
and uniformed, ignorant false teachers. So, what did their uniforms look like?
When spirits are included in almost all beliefs, that is compatible. I have absolutely no idea what this means. Show us a spirit, just one. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
... All the big wigs are Atheist. ... Nope. Kenneth R. Miller, for example.
quote: Accepting Dawkins rhetoric is impossible given how hard it is to convince me of anything. LoL. I don't trust him. Thats why I have little faith in the theory That's hardly a valid reason to throw out the whole field. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Miller is also the coauthor of a Biology text (Miller and Levine).
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I do not need to show correlations are right or wrong, ... So you can't explain the correlations.
... only what they are based on...and that is belief. Your denial is useless. Then you better get busy and provide the evidence. This of course, is a prime example of what should not be taught in school -- the idea that mere fantasy is valid when there is a total lack of substantiating evidence. Enjoy.by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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My doubts lie in Atheist Biology. Me too. I did a search for Atheist Biology on Amazon and came up with zilch.
They have this theory so, they look to try and confirm that theory. I don't like that approach. Sorry, but you have that backwards. In science, you try to test the theory, to refute it. The results of your experiments might confirm, refute or do neither. Scientists really hate it when they find out they find out they were following a false hypothesis. Good scientists, do not want to be wrong, they want to work on theories that are best supported by evidence, because they are the best explanations of reality.
Cherry pick the data that fits and discard the rest. Do you have an example of data (evidence) in biology being purposely discarded so an incorrect theory would be reported?
All the big wigs are Atheist. Well, you only name one, so what? I know some that are not. Biology is not a religious subject and should not be taught in religious studies.
And these big wigs like Dawkins go around doing lectures on bashing religion. Why. Your a scientist. Stop entertaining the religious folk. Just talk science only. I guess you must also think that religious bigwigs should never talk about science? You're a pastor, just talk religion only.
Then in an interview I heard him admit the possibility of extraterrestrial creation. Like WTF. How can I believe this guy. Unless there is a logic i can't see. If one type of creation is possible then wouldn't all types of creation be possible? I think that was his point; there is exactly the same amount of physical evidence of creation by god as there is for creation by aliens, none.
Accepting Dawkins rhetoric is impossible given how hard it is to convince me of anything. LoL. I don't trust him. Thats why I have little faith in the theory Well, I guess you don't realize that rhetoric about creation by Dawkins or anyone else, has absolutely nothing to do with the Theory of Evolution or biological science? When a scientist talks about religion it has no more validity than when a religious leader talks about religion. Neither religious leaders nor scientists have any convincing evidence whether there is a god. That is based on faith, not evidence. I don't trust any religious person who claims to know anything about god, because I don't accept anything based on faith.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
If we do not make invisible beings visible and show them to you they do not exist. Ok. How about if anything in the universe exists, we must bring it to your bedroom?
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
Correlations as you present them are easily explained. A bunch of diversionary offshoots of the same tired belief.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
If we do not make invisible beings visible and show them to you they do not exist. Ok. You brought them up. You claim they are real. Prove it.
How about if anything in the universe exists, we must bring it to your bedroom? Changing the subject doesn't make your fantasy real. It just proves you have nothing. So far, you look pretty silly. The stuff we see out there in the Universe can be seen by everyone. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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creation writes:
Then stop lying. Stop letting your beliefs get in the way of the truth. Stop flaunting your ignorance and learn something. I would like lies to be relegated to something other than mandatory beliefs imposed by evil people. Pick a topic and learn something. Ask questions instead of thumbing your nose.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1425 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Correlations as you present them are easily explained. ... By actual old age. Age based on facts and objective empirical evidence. The kind of thing that should be taught in school, as opposed to fantasy and unfounded speculations on a magical change in nature. No other attempt at explanation has been presented that even comes close to dealing with the correlations.
... A bunch of diversionary offshoots of the same tired belief. And that still does not explain the correlations. It's just blather like a broken record. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
False. When spirits are included in almost all beliefs, that is compatible. The issue of what they did, and which ones were good and bad is beside the point. People teaching that they know there were no spirits are liars, and uniformed, ignorant false teachers. So for example when you consider Mohammad's report of speaking to the Angel Gabriel and to the God of Abraham, you think this should confirm your belief in spirits? Why? Do you think that what he claimed was true?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Correlations as you present them are easily explained. If it's so easily done, why don't you do it? We'll watch.
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creation Member (Idle past 1963 days) Posts: 654 Joined: |
The bible says Satan appears as an angel of light. So if some spirit calling himself Gabriel appeared to some guy, I see no problem with that.
If it had actually been Gabriel, we could tell. Every time Gabe came to earth, if I recall, it had to do with announcing the coming of One Person. Jesus. Edited by creation, : No reason given.
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