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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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So, to summarize, trurh doesn't matter. Only the right wing echo chamber of hate matters.
Glad you cleared that up. This seems apropos:
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JonF Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Not everyone is in favor of legal immigration. Stephen Miller
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JonF Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Democrats defending Russia??
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Percy Member Posts: 22940 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
Nationalism is bad for more than one reason, but the most important is that it subordinates other country's interests to one's own. That's what Hitler did. Germany's interests were greater than Austria's, so he annexed it. Germany's interests were greater than the Czechoslovakia's, so he annexed Sudetenland. That wasn't enough, so he later took the rest of Czechoslovakia by marching his troops in. That wasn't enough either, so he next took a chunk out of Lithuania. All this in the name of nationalism, often supported by the German expression lebensraum, loosely translated as a need for living space.
This brought an end to territory Hitler could acquire by relatively peaceful means. The next step was the invasion of Poland which brought about, because of Polish mutual defense treaties with Great Britain and France (among others), the beginning of World War II. Trump's brand of nationalism isn't leading to war, at least not yet, but it is leading to isolation. Trump's rallying cries of "America First" and "Nationalism" actually translate to America Alone. European powers are can see how Trump is implementing his nationalism, that it means acting self-interestedly and unilaterally without regard to the rest of the world community, and they're coming to understand that America is no longer a reliable ally. A popular proposal at the recent Paris summit was for a European army outside NATO so that Europe could have a defense force they could depend upon. Here are a few excepts from Trump refuses to acknowledge the fraught history of nationalism:
quote: That last paragraph illustrates Trump's profound ignorance of history as he invokes Nazi nationalism as a reason that France should adopt the same attitudes, while at the same time misunderstanding Macron's own comments which definitely had not suggested that Europe needing protection against the US. This next excerpt shows the link white nationalists are making to Trump's advocacy of nationalism:
quote: --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22940 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
There's some problem with your YouTube link, can you check the URL?
--Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Fixed. It's hard to copy and paste on a phone.
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ooh-child Member (Idle past 596 days) Posts: 242 Joined: |
It's nothing but fingerpointing and hatemongering and character assassination from your side, it's going to destroy the country What's destroying the country is willful ignorance of truth, and since you admit maybe half of what I say is the truth, it looks like your kind taking a wrecking ball to the United States. We used to be able to debate based on facts in this country. Folks like you make that impossible these days.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well if I leave, which I keep being on the verge of doing, you won't have anyone to debate with at all. Maybe that's the best thing anyway. I don't even know which "facts" I supposedly agreed with, I'm just so depressed over the thinking of the Left I don't care. Facts get swallowed up into the Leftist processor anyway and come out so distorted by destructive ideology their being facts doesn't mean much to me. I don't get why people on the Left can't see it but they can't and there doesn't seem to be anything anyone can do about it. So you blame me and I blame you and that's the end of it. End of everything unfortunately.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Nationalism is bad for more than one reason, but the most important is that it subordinates other country's interests to one's own. That's what Hitler did. Which is one of the reasons why "nationalism" is not the best word for what Trump means, as I said. It depends on which nation is using the term. Putting American interests first does not subordinate the interests of other nations in that way at all, in fact American interests have to be strone for us to be of any help to other nations. Trump may be ignorant of some things and should be straightened out about them, but he is not a supporter of Nazism or white nationalism.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1696 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The Right has been singing the praises of Crenshaw already for his very gracious attitude of forgiveness of SNL for mocking his war wound. I don't think I can agree with the opinion piece by him that you post though. If he wanted to point out that the "ist" and "ism" that are the problem are the Leftist "racism" and "sexism" and the like, I would have no problem with it except to suggest he add some words that end in "phobe" to identify the leftist political correctness which is character assassination and intimidation. And it is the Left that attacks people's motivations. But the terms "leftist" and "leftism" refer to ideology, not personal character, and are necessary for keeping a body of thought on the table which is the problem from the point of view of the Right. The debate should be kept on the level of ideology.
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JonF Member (Idle past 420 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Good idea. When are you going to start?
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2620 From: massachusetts US Joined: |
Faith, do you suffer from dyslexia? Seems you don't know the left from the right. That's the only way I can explain your posts.
Edited by xongsmith, : left out a right word- xongsmith, 5.7d
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PaulK Member Posts: 17912 Joined: Member Rating: 6.5 |
quote: That is rather questionable. Carlson was badgering him at that point and obviously trying to get him to say that, and he obviously preferred peaceful protest.. And let us remember that he is explicitly talking about people who want to eliminate a large proportion of the population. To what extent would Jews have the right to resist another Hitler ?(To be honest I think that Mossad would assassinate a second Hitler if he looked like getting anywhere.) quote: THAT is certainly NOT in the interview. He was clearly talking about violent extremists. Richard Spencer is not perfectly innocent. If he isn’t an actual Nazi he’s too damn close.
quote: Which rather obviously has nothing to do with what he said. Why is that Faith . Why do you have to invent these things ?
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Taq Member Posts: 10297 Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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Faith writes: You know this is a lie but it serves to smear me and that's all that matters. That's all leftists ever do. Acosta deserved to be thrown out of the WH, he was grandstanding and accusing the President and not asking a legitimate question and then refused to yield the mike when told to and asked yet another question while other reporters had to wait. They don't like him either by the way. His right to his views is hardly impinged by the requirement that he behave civillly like a journalist in the WH. And now of course he's getting to pollute the whole country with his "views" as he takes them to liberal talk shows and all the rest of the left-infested media. So you accuse Democrats of being fascist, and then go on a tirade against the press who happen to ask question of your Dear Leader. Do you have any self awareness?
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Percy Member Posts: 22940 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 6.7 |
After hearing over and over again that the migrant caravan is hundreds of miles away, after reading they were still in Mexico City, today's New York Times reports that the migrant caravan has reached the US border in Tijuana. The caravan must be stretched out over an enormous distance, like about a thousand miles. The article places the number that has arrived at 800. Some excerpts:
quote: If reports about the migrant caravan only recently leaving Mexico City were true, then that last paragraph about thousands arriving in the next several days could not possibly be true.
quote: Not only has Trump not mentioned the migrant caravan since the midterms, he hasn't mentioned that tax cut, either. He is such a liar.
quote: Oh, I see, the migrant caravan is actually three separate caravans. That explains why some are in Mexico City and some in Tijuana. Notice how compassionately Mexico is behaving toward people fleeing death and destitution, housing them in a sports stadium. What do we do? We call out the troops and change our rules to make it even more difficult for them to enter legally. --Percy
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