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Message 164 of 243 (762789)
07-16-2015 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 160 by Faith
07-11-2015 11:14 AM


Glycemic Index Watch
Faith writes:

I do have a thing for hamburger on sourdough...

I read somewhere that sourdough bread is actually better for diabetics because it breaks down a different way...lemme google...
Sourdough bread better for blood sugar control

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
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Message 168 of 243 (762996)
07-19-2015 10:06 AM
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07-19-2015 9:49 AM


Re: Just How Ineffective are Dieting and Exercise
The weight range is a fact, though slow change is possible...perhaps the studies did not take into account the fact that its not an easy process to change ones setpoint....most people will fail...yet success is achievable slowly

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 170 of 243 (762998)
07-19-2015 10:31 AM
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07-19-2015 10:29 AM


Re: Just How Ineffective are Dieting and Exercise
perhaps not. I assumed the research had its own evidence....

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 178 of 243 (763065)
07-20-2015 10:18 AM
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07-19-2015 5:09 PM


Re: Just How Ineffective are Dieting and Exercise
Jon writes:

What else would you have the doctor do?

I recall reading that its not so much the weight that is the problem so much as it is the lack of exercise. Of course extreme obesity is bad for any animal(or human) but the whole stress related effects of forced dieting may themselves cause more harm than good.

A good GP will tell his patients the whole truth. Realistically the typical patient may not necessarily see wight loss per se, but if they are encouraged to exercise and make better food choices in regards to --as an example---good fats over bad fats, their overall health shall improve regardless whether the scake stays the same or not.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 216 of 243 (770526)
10-07-2015 9:58 AM
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10-07-2015 8:28 AM


Re: Bacon!
Sounds like Yasutaro Koide lives a non-boring life, though. Peaceful yet not boring.

quote:
His granddaughter, Aya Kikuchi, told local newspaper Chunichi Shimbun her grandfather once tended to be very strict about manners. "He was very stubborn, but he got nicer with age," she said. "His lifestyle is one that avoids stress."
That sums it up. Avoid stress. There is no universal diet that is right for everyone. For some, vegetables are better than protein and fats....for others such as myself, carbs need to be avoided and good fats be the main fuel.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain

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Message 235 of 243 (843220)
11-14-2018 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 234 by Percy
11-14-2018 8:12 PM


Two Doctors Speak Out
I watch a lot of videos from conferences and talks. Some presentations are, of course, sold as a commercial interest. Others are merely informative. Two of the best ones that I have come across recently, both of whom were Doctors and both of whom had statistical evidence behind their arguments, are these:

and


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Message 237 of 243 (843249)
11-15-2018 11:45 AM
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11-15-2018 10:41 AM


Re: Two Doctors Speak Out
I track both. Once I get an idea of where my range is, I dont test as often. I don't have to worry about low blood sugars...only high ones. I stopped taking insulin, atorvastatin, and Trulicity. My blood sugars are right around 7 currently, after two months on the diet. I expect to achieve increased insulin sensitivity and a goal of under 6.0 A1C by January. One thing I have to watch on the ketogenic diet is eating too much fat. Its not because the fat is bad for me so much as it is that I dont burn any of my own.

My weight dropped from 232 on 9/13/18 to 217 on 11/13/18. My goal is 200 lb. The insurance charts allow my bodytype 188-205, so weightwise I should be ok.

I am convinced that these Low Carb advocate Doctors know what they are talking about for the most part. For those who are not diabetic, I would recommend increasing the carbs to 40 grams a day instead of the keto suggested 20 gram or less. Just make sure that the carbs are low glycemic...such as green vegetables and salads. If you sslip up during the holidays and have pie or something, dont sweat it but dont do it for multiple days in a row...get back on the plan after the feast is over.

Personally, I feel so bad when I eat sugars and high glycemic carbs that I dont slip up much anymore. My one carb weakness is having soda crackers, which I top with either cheese or salmon salad. They can add carbs at the rate of 10G for every 5 crackers.


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. –RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." –Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

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Message 239 of 243 (860374)
08-07-2019 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 238 by Faith
08-07-2019 9:57 AM


Re: Going on another keto style diet
I have not researched the Code Red diet specifically, but it sounds right there in the ballpark. It takes roughly 2 weeks to kick the carb addiction, after which carbs can again be added at roughly 40 grams max per day...with fiber and spaced out to avoid insulin spikes. your energy will increase. I also recommend barleans lemon swirl as a good fish oil supplement. It will help control your inflammation.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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Message 241 of 243 (860474)
08-07-2019 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 240 by Faith
08-07-2019 4:31 PM


Re: Going on another keto style diet
Not quite strict Keto...they advocate 20g or less of carbs a day and I try and maintain 40G or less.
Health Plan

Carbs are addictive, however. I find it easier to stay away from them rather than have smaller portions--eating them after a few days of low carb is like pouring gasoline on a fire!


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." ~Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile


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