Age Correlations and An Old Earth, Version 2 No 1

Your fantasies have no effect on reality. Your fantasies have no effect on reality. The flood is fictional. Your fantasies have no effect on reality.

Excellent. In a way you're onto something. But not at Chicxulub.A planet getting hit by a Chicxulub hunk of space rock would cause all manner of faults, ruptures, pressure waves at extreme frequencies, all throughout the planet. The fountains of the deep most certainly would have opened. The Deccan Traps kind of stuff. That's why the environmental damage was so sever throughout the planet for the ensuing millions of years killing off most of the life on this planet.But not at Chicxulub.We have seen the fountains of the deep open. We have studied to a very large extent the effects of these things from what they left behind. Yellowstone, Siberian Traps, look up large igneous provinces. We know what they look like.We also know of impact craters. All over this planet. We know, with a great deal of certainty, what scars these things leave behind and we can quite easily tell their age, composition, extent, structure, from their peeks to many miles away ... and below. People really do study these things in extreme detail. Like a passionate need to measure, dig, analyse, write papers, discuss, go to conferences, live life. Like that.Chicxulub was an impact crater. Not a massive volcanic disruption. Indeed lots and lots of stuff came up from that collision and all the fountains of the deep it opened all around the world. Remember, a big chunk of all life on Earth not just died but completely died out ... extinct ... no more of that kind ever again. That takes a good length of time, like lots of years to accomplish, even after a really bad day. The fountains of the deep kept a really bad thing, not only going, but going worse and worse.In none of this stuff has anyone ever recorded more than trace amounts of iridium. Certainly nothing in the range of what we find in the K-T boundary layer (I'm old. I get to still call it that.)We have, however, seen those levels of iridium concentrations from the smaller chunks of space rock this planet seems to collect every now and again. Yah, that mountain of space rock dug itself into us real deep while it, and all the surrounding crust, rock, water, everything exploded. Having rings of Earth's mangled mantel is not just possible, but, kinda required.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

Well, let’s kick off with reflection seismology: Reflection seismology - WikipediaHave a read and try and learn something.

So why should we ever assume patches of high concentrations of Iridium somewhere in the mantle or below when we have no reasons to base that assumption upon?Everything the Earth has spewed up at us, everything we have ever seen from the fountains of the deep has had nothing but trace levels, or below, of the stuff. Why should we entertain the possibility? Just because it may fit a favorite fable?Can you give us ANY reason to suggest that Iridium can come in those concentrations from within the crust or from the oceans, or fall from the clouds ... from anywhere except the only places we have ever seen such high levels ... space rocks?

Not likely. Impact sites have been studied in detail for decades now.Furthermore, we have no evidence for 'fountains of the deep' anywhere in the world. Perhaps you could describe what one would look like? If they existed, maybe, but igneous events usually do not give us a global pattern. Yes, many times. Here is a general discussion from Wikipedia with my bolding for emphasis. I'm not sure what 'the stuff' is in this case. Certainly an impact can result in igneous events, several of these are known. But they are distinctive, such as the one at Sudbury, ON; and do not produce global igneous or sedimentary deposits. We do not find granite in the core, nor in the mantle. Granite is mostly confined to the continental crust.

No, we see phreatic (water driven) eruptions all the time in the geological record. They do no produce impact features. No such deposits are known. Such an event would have an obvious volcanic connection that is not in evidence.If you know of such a location or event, please enlighten us.

Actually, phreatic eruptions have been studied extensively at the geological research institution I work for, for at least 90 years. The specialists know what deposits would be expected to be found. No evidence for magical global fluddies at all.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.

Actually no fount of the deep has ever been studied in any way. Nice try.Edited by creation, : No reason given.

Your claims that the flood is fiction have no basis in reality or fact.Edited by creation, : No reason given.

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We have seen the fountains of the deep open. We have studied to a very large extent the effects of these things from what they left behind. Yellowstone, Siberian Traps, look up large igneous provinces. We know what they look like.

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A very foolish and inaccurate claim. The molten rock in India or elsewhere was not from a fountain of the deep.

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We also know of impact craters. All over this planet. We know, with a great deal of certainty, what scars these things leave behind

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The so called scars you speak of would be similar in any violent impact either from below or above. If not, then specify exactly what you claim is unique to an impact from up to down!?

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we can quite easily tell their age

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In your religious dream, yes. Not in real time.

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Remember, a big chunk of all life on Earth not just died but completely died out ... extinct ... no more of that kind ever again

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Precisely what we expect in the flood, not only in your cooked up extinction fables.

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In none of this stuff has anyone ever recorded more than trace amounts of iridium. Certainly nothing in the range of what we find in the K-T boundary layer (I'm old. I get to still call it that.)

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We have, however, seen those levels of iridium concentrations from the smaller chunks of space rock this planet seems to collect every now and again.

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As discussed, science says iridium does come from space and also that is is found deep in the earth. Precisely where flood water came from!

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Yah, that mountain of space rock dug itself into us real deep while it, and all the surrounding crust, rock, water, everything exploded. Having rings of Earth's mangled mantel is not just possible, but, kinda required.

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Yes...in either scenario, impact from below or above!

From your own link..
..."the results obtained from reflection seismology are usually not unique (more than one model adequately fits the data) and may be sensitive to relatively small errors in data collection, processing, or analysis. For these reasons, great care must be taken when interpreting the results of a reflection seismic survey...Reflection seismology is used extensively in a number of fields and its applications can be categorised into three groups,[14] each defined by their depth of investigation:Near-surface applications — an application that aims to understand geology at depths of up to approximately 1 km, typically used for engineering and environmental surveys, as well as coal[15] and mineral exploration.[16] A more recently developed application for seismic reflection is for geothermal energy surveys,[17] although the depth of investigation can be up to 2 km deep in this case.[18]
Hydrocarbon exploration — used by the hydrocarbon industry to provide a high resolution map of acoustic impedance contrasts at depths of up to 10 km within the subsurface. This can be combined with seismic attribute analysis and other exploration geophysics tools and used to help geologists build a geological model of the area of interest.
Crustal studies — investigation into the structure and origin of the Earth's crust, through to the Moho discontinuity and beyond, at depths of up to 100 km."
....None of the applications even deal with the inner earth, only the surface (100 km or whatever) . So your point is off target/topic!Edited by creation, : No reason given.Edited by creation, : No reason given.

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So why should we ever assume patches of high concentrations of Iridium somewhere in the mantle or below when we have no reasons to base that assumption upon?

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Why assume they were not there??Science has no reasons either way.I have reasons. The fact is it exists and had to come from somewhere. It came right at the time of the great extinction. This has the earmarks of the flood.

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everything we have ever seen from the fountains of the deep has had nothing but trace levels

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You have NO idea whatsoever even what a fountain of the deep was! Stop with the insane claims you saw stuff pushed out of them!!Hey, we do not know what is in the center of the earth. Maybe the water came from deeper than they think. As for space...the waters resided out beyond where the stars are that came to earth in the flood. This leaves a lot of room for the water picking up iridium!!!

You're so funny. All your posts here demonstrate that you have no clue about reality or facts. There is no evidence of a global flood anywhere in any geological formation. It is fictional just like every other story in your bible. Science has known this for 200 years.

What are those earmarks?It looks to me like you are making up more BS about your fictional flood. Out beyond where the stars are? You're kidding, right?

A very foolish and inaccurate response. Deep fissures open in the crust of the planet and out explodes, gushes and oozes all manner of ejecta. Regardless of your personal self-serving definitions those are the only fountains of the deep we have ever experienced. And you know this how? Centuries of study by thousands of experts, both amateur and professional, says you're wrong. I'm not such an expert, neither amateur nor professional.Besides, you probably wouldn't understand or except the properties these experts cited, so I'm not going to waste my efforts on trying to educate a committed anti-intellectual. Funny how religious apologists try to use the term "religious" as an insult. Like you know being religious is being wrong.Again, the science is quite rigorous. Not conducive to the simple-minded religionist. Except the Earth shows no signs of such flood, but, does show copious points of evidence that a big honking space mountain hit us hard causing an environmental calamity that lead, directly and indirectly, to the mass extinction of some 70% of all life in the ensuing millennia. Tens of thousands of years. Quite contrary to the narrative of your flud fable. I'm sure you can make up an unevidenced fantasy reason for this. Iridium comes from space rocks in concentrations we find in the K-T boundary layer and iridium only comes from the Earth in trace amounts thousands of times less than what is in the K-T boundary layer. The iridium in the K-T boundary layer came from one rather largish space rock.That is a significant fact you cannot obfuscate. You are left only with the abject denial of this reality.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.