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ringo
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Message 2302 of 4573 (837472)
08-02-2018 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 2301 by Chiroptera
08-02-2018 3:23 PM


Re: Trump's Grocery Store ID Claim
When I bought my cell phone (ATT), I was required to show a picture ID as well as a bill of some sort to show proof of address.
I don't have photo ID. Never did. Never will.
I had to show two pieces of ID, including one with an address to get a library card.
I need the same ID to vote, which I find disturbing. I never used to need any kind of ID to vote.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 2305 of 4573 (837475)
08-02-2018 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 2291 by marc9000
08-01-2018 9:14 PM


Re: .50 Cal Jesus Kills for your Sins
marc9000 writes:
In short, I hope every leftist keeps claiming that there is no desire for illegals to vote....
My question is: Why don't you want them to vote? Are you afraid of what they might vote for? Fair treatment, maybe? The kind of things your government is sworn to uphold? Heaven knows you don't want a bunch of people coming in and pressuring the government to do what it's supposed to do.

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
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Message 2315 of 4573 (837496)
08-03-2018 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 2314 by Hyroglyphx
08-03-2018 5:20 PM


Re: .50 Cal Jesus Kills for your Sins
Hyroglyphx writes:
You need identification just to get something as simple as traveling domestically.
Remember when we used to condemn the Soviets for restricting internal travel? I would call emulating them a step in the wrong direction.

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ringo
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Message 2331 of 4573 (837522)
08-04-2018 1:22 PM
Reply to: Message 2328 by Chiroptera
08-04-2018 11:38 AM


Re: .50 Cal Jesus Kills for your Sins
Chiroptera writes:
Supposedly, all you need to cast a vote is the cheesy card board registration card they send. I just found mine; I'm going to try using only that next time I vote.
We used to have enumerators come around before every election and you'd tell them the name of every eligible voter in the house. Then they'd mail a card to every eligible voter and they were supposed to take it to the polling station - no ID required, and if the polling officer recognized you you didn't even need to show the card.
Now they just make up the voters list from tax records and you have to show ID. I think it's more a matter of reducing costs than trying to prevent illegal voting.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 2335 of 4573 (837529)
08-04-2018 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 2334 by Hyroglyphx
08-04-2018 3:32 PM


Re: .50 Cal Jesus Kills for your Sins
Hyroglyphx writes:
How else are you going to know if the person voting is the actual person and not a friend or a family member?
Is that a huge problem? Does it even matter that much? One name can only vote once.

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ringo
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Message 2362 of 4573 (837581)
08-06-2018 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 2354 by marc9000
08-05-2018 4:57 PM


Re: .50 Cal Jesus Kills for your Sins
marc9000 writes:
Yes! Free stuff for themselves.
To some extent, the role of government is to provide "stuff" for the people, whether in the form of goods or services. The problem we have is that some people are paying their fair share of taxes and not getting their fair share of stuff in return. Now you want to compound the problem by depriving them of the right to representation?
marc9000 writes:
Can't find "fair treatment" in the Constitution for anyone, including illegals of course. Where do you find it?
Ever hear of the Bill of Rights?

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ringo
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Message 2390 of 4573 (838029)
08-12-2018 5:11 PM
Reply to: Message 2389 by Phat
08-12-2018 4:41 PM


Re: Who Pays For The Extra Police Protection
Phat writes:
Why should the public pay for such controversial clashes between opposing ideologies?
What do you want to do? Leave it to the stormtroopers to slug it out?

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ringo
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Message 2397 of 4573 (838063)
08-13-2018 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 2396 by Chiroptera
08-13-2018 10:06 AM


Re: More on the fascist rally in DC
Chiroptera writes:
I have trouble feeling sympathy for people whose main tactics are fear and intimidation when they themselves are fearful and intimidated.
They were fearful of the non-white minority in the first place. It seems appropriate that they'd also be fearful of white people who outnumber them.

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ringo
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Message 2413 of 4573 (838188)
08-15-2018 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 2410 by NoNukes
08-15-2018 1:09 PM


Re: The Omarosa Thing
NoNukes writes:
... the outlandish claim that every employer requires similar agreements.
I once worked for a cleaning company that made me sign a non-disclosure agreement. Thankfully, the five year period is over now and I can get rich by selling all of their cleaning secrets.

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ringo
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Message 2443 of 4573 (838530)
08-23-2018 12:08 PM


The trick is to get rid of Pence first. That way you have a chance of getting somebody halfway decent like Gerry Ford in the Oval Office.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 2461 of 4573 (838977)
08-31-2018 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 2460 by Diomedes
08-31-2018 3:22 PM


Re: NAFTA
Diomedes writes:
I am wondering if Trump will corner Trudeau and Freeland and force a deal that won't be as beneficial for Canada.
It's mostly about giving Trump something he can crow about and take credit for - another "disaster" fixed by Trump. Maybe we can use the same con that Kim Jong Junior used.

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ringo
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Message 2487 of 4573 (839865)
09-17-2018 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 2485 by marc9000
09-16-2018 4:59 PM


Re: Reflection
marc9000 writes:
Did a 70 year old billionaire become president only for selfish gain?
Yes.
marc9000 writes:
Does Trump "not perceive reality"
No.

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ringo
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Message 2489 of 4573 (839901)
09-18-2018 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 2488 by Phat
09-17-2018 2:12 PM


Re: Reflection
Phat writes:
He likely sees his heirs and the strongest of the blue collar base making it while the weaker liberals and socialists fall away. His American Dream is basically survival of the fittest.
That's a fundamental misunderstanding of evolution. The "fittest" doesn't mean the ones with the biggest guns. We evolved as a social species because we are stronger as a group. The liberals and socialists understand that. Holing up in a fortified compound to fight society is not the best strategy for survival.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2515 of 4573 (840560)
10-02-2018 11:37 AM
Reply to: Message 2514 by Phat
10-02-2018 10:27 AM


Re: Trump Lies Again
Phat writes:
....who on earth would want this man as a Supreme Court Justice?
True Believers, people who believe in their dogma whether it works or not - i.e. people who put faith before reality.

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ringo
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From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 2634 of 4573 (843948)
11-23-2018 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 2633 by Percy
11-23-2018 8:27 AM


Re: Trump is Most Thankful for...Himself
I can just hear Trump at the Thanksgiving Day table:
"Dear Me, who art in the White House, hallowed be my name. My kingdom come. My will be done on earth as it is in heaven...."

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