Creation

Hi ringo You were the one telling someone to do something stupid, not me.God Bless,

Hi ringo Sea shells have been found on mountain tops. They have also been found 7 miles deep in the earth. If we back that deep hole up to where oil is found we have over a 10 mile fluctuation of the elevation of dry land as the material was deposited for producing the oil on the earth and then buried in the earth. Why would they be on the map if there was only 1 piece of dry land mass surrounded by water? I didn't make the map it was made a long time ago by someone who had been around the land mass. Or had been told about it. I gave you the Hebrew Lexicon definitions and the uses of the words. I can't help it if you would rather have someone's opinion. How do you make that determination. Just how do we know the continents have drifted apart? Just the facts please.God Bless,

Hi Man I know you said that.But the heavens and earth were created in Genesis 1:1.
Genesis 1:1 is a declarative statement of a completed action of the subject (God) of the verb being the heavens and the earth.Since that took place in the beginning I do not know when that was. It could have been 13 billions years of duration according to how we measure duration with time. The man and woman created in the image and likeness of God in Genesis 1:27 is modern mankind. Having a mind, spirit, and flesh body just like God does. God the Father is all knowledge (our mind) God the Holy Spirit (the part of us that is eternal) and God the Son (our flesh body). God is manifest in 3 different ways but all are still just one as we are.The man in Genesis 2:7 was not created but was formed from the dust of the ground like all the other creatures were. But this man was the first life form on earth.But the book of Genesis was written about 3,000 years ago. As Moses spent 80 light periods (days) and 80 dark periods (nights) in the mount with God getting the information he was told to write in a book and place in the side of the ark.

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Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

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Generations is a history of people, places, and things. So this verse declares to be the history of the heavens and earth "IN THE DAY"
God created them. God defined a light period as day and a dark period as night and combined they are called a day in Genesis 1:5. Which is determined by the rotation of the earth relative to the sun.Since God is light (pure energy) the darkness found at Genesis 1:2 did not exist until created by God as stated in Isaiah 45:7.We know that there was a light period that lasted for a very long duration in the early universe according to the CMBR.Therefore all the events recorded in Genesis 2.4 to 4.24 took place in the same light period the heavens and the earth were created.Man if you will click the peek mode on the right of the screen you can see how we put quotes in the message.God Bless,

Hi Daniel I wasn't expecting such a revelation as this. But rest assured it is the only one I have ever got as to how the oil got there under 22,000 PSI.But according to your answer and explanation of all this information I can understand why Phat jumped on you a while back.But I am a little confused as to this compound you reference as you said the oil was not made from fossils.Could you explain how the plant and animal remains that produced the mixture of hundreds of different hydrocarbons molecules containing hydrogen and carbon got in the oil if it is a synthetic produced in a lab.The rest of the post I won't touch with a ten foot pole.God Bless,

Hi Coragyps Yes I understand why it is under the pressure which is caused by the overburden.My question how did it get there since the pressure is 22,000 PSI at 5 miles.Until recently we did not have equipment to pump that pressure. But that is what they do in fracking is replace the oil with water forcing the oil out of the ground.Therefore the only way the matter could get 5 miles deep is through accretion. If you have a better way I would like to hear it.God Bless,

Hi Man How many people have you talked too that has only one VERSE to cover the entire creation of the universe? Please give me their names or profile names and links to their conversations as I have never met even ONE. I don't see it as a struggle. It is simple plain reading of the most original text we have available to study. I have studied Biblical Hebrew and Greek since 1965 (53years). I have found only 1 person in the world that even agrees with parts of my view outside of my students.So I am not mainstream. One of his sisters, of course.But you think because the Bible says, "And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived," while dwelling in the land of Nod that he found her there. It does not say he found her there it says "he knew her" (which means they had sex and she got pregnant) and "bear Enoch". Since there is only enough water in the atmosphere to cover the surface of the earth at any given time is only 1" it had to come from some place other than the atmosphere. That 1" increase is all you could get out of the atmosphere in 40 days and nights of rain or a 100 days and nights of rain. To get 1" of rain would require 1" of water to be removed from the face of the earth to produce 1" of rain every day.The land mass of the earth was covered with water in Genesis 1:2.Dry land rose up out of the water when the water was gathered in one place in Genesis 1:9.So the water that had covered all the land mass in Genesis 1:2 that had receded somewhere so dry land could appear returned from the fountains of the deep to cover all land mass again.God Bless,

Hi Coragyps Isn't there lots of water in the ground where oil is found?How did it get buried with only sedimentation.
How did the matter get covered quick enough so the process could take place of turning the matter into oil before it lost all energy to the water above it.I think accretion would be better with mass from outer space colliding with the earth covering the matter as well as water.The earth was formed by accretion over a very long duration, according to science.But if God spoke the earth into existence and it was much smaller in diameter than it is now then added to the earth as life forms were produced and deposited in the marshes and bogs by meteorites bombarding the earth. Wouldn't that be a better way even if you wanted to leave God out of the equation? Problem is a few billion years would not be enough time as you would have to deal with life forms beginning to exist as well as the accretion of the planet from a gaseous disk.God Bless,

Hi Phat What evidence are you talking about? I rely on evidence presented in the inerrant Bible. Especially since science has put forth many things that proves the Bible is correct. Yes Phat I have a Creator that has revealed things to me that he revealed to no one else. I know He exists as we have met when I was dead for 3 hours and 20 minutes.As far as fighting I don't fight. I made a statement in March of 2007 that I was here to learn. Now why would I imagine my Creator is proud of me for sharing information He has revealed to me?I have learned science does not know how the universe began to exist or why.I have learned science does not know how life began to exist.I have learned science believes the land mass was in one place at least one time in the past, maybe more.They know that because it is still moving. The plates are moving from 1 cm/yr to 10 cm/yr and at that rate Pangaea existed about 175 million years ago.Science says a single land mass existed and the Bible says a single land mass existed, and the oldest map of earth agrees.Now there is a difference of opinion as to how it got to where it is now. I believe it got pretty close to where it is at now in a nanosecond and hasn't stopped moving yet, although some are moving a lot slower than others.I am still writing my book and have just started the chapter on what science wants us to believe.I have over 9 gigs of information I am trying to sift through.God Bless,

Hi Son, It all made sense to me when I was 10 years old. I have seen no evidence presented on this site or in any of the thousands of pages I have read on the internet to change my mind. The earth has been covered with water at least 2 times. Genesis 1:2 and Genesis 7:19. You putting words into my mouth now. Give me the quote where I said that.I said the earth was smaller at one time in the past. Then due to accretion it got larger covering up matter that eventually turned into the oil in the ground. Which is now under 22,000 psi. Could you give me some supporting evidence for that? I thought it was matter that was covered up, put under extreme pressure and heat as it decayed and turned into oil. I thought it was found in pockets in the rocks and in sand and water that is in the earth. Sure you can ask. I am a born again child of God, washed in the blood of the Lamb having my spirit sealed for eternity. I fellowship with some but not all Baptist. There are many who have left the truth of what the original text says a long time ago. Those I don't fellowship with as we have very little in common. But I will talk to anyone who will listen, and to some that won't.God Bless,

Hi Man At 10 years old I had read the Bible cover to cover twice by the time I was nine and was on my third time at ten. I brought a devotion at prayer meeting in November of 1949. In my devotion I read Genesis 1:1 and then read the history of the Day God created the heavens and earth found beginning in Genesis 2:4. I held the same view then I do now. My view has been streamlined and expanded by my studies in Hebrew and Greek. How could you possibly have an open mind at age 40. You may have looked at it when you were 40 but when were you born again? A person has to be born again and have the Holy Spirit dwelling in him/her to be able to understand the Bible for it is spiritually discerned.

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1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

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So the only way you could look at the Bible was intellectually which is what you had been taught for 40 years and had made up your mind about by the time you were 25. There were over a thousand prophesies about Christ hundreds of years before he enter the world in a human body. That came to pass before and after His birth.There are prophesies that are being fulfilled on a daily basis. There are many prophesies that are yet to come to pass.One prophecy that is going to take place is the earth will melt with fervent heat. 2 Peter 3:10 Science agrees as it says the Sun is increasing in size and in the future will make the earth to hot and dry for mankind to live on it. Then the sun will swallow the earth.As a side note:
If you want to know the cause of global warming it is the sun getting larger getting closer to us thus producing more heat. The Bible makes no such declaration.In fact the Hebrew word ברא says God created brought into existence the heavens and the earth. This did take place in one day as declared in Genesis 2:4. Using God's definition of day being a period of light as He call the light day.The light period that ended when God created the darkness (Isaiah 45:7) that existed at Genesis 1:2 was one single light period with no light and dark periods. This will exist in the future as the new heaven and earth will have no need of the sun. Revelation 22:5. Please explain to me what the universe and earth evolved from?In other words what is the origin of the universe and everything in it?

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Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

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Zechariah 12:1, Isaiah 40.22, 45:2 All these talk of a expanded heavens (universe).
Yes God spreadeth out the heavens.Science draws a picture of a universe that is stretched out. But if the theory is that the space between what existed at T=0 + 1 billionth second is what is expanding the universe would be expanding in all directions and would be the shape of a globe. So the universe and everything in it began to exist when there was non existence.Yet you believe mankind could not have evolved as put forth by evolutionist. Why couldn't he begin to exist from non existence if everything else did?But if he was place here who placed him here? If Aliens where did they come from? Who placed them where they were? There is no way to get away from a creator without everything beginning to exist from non existence. Which is an impossibility.If you can understand what non existence is you should be able to understand why it is impossible. If you keep assuming existence then you will never understand non existence. What was science in the 1800 hundreds has been proven to be false today. Then they blead people to treat things that were wrong with them. George Washington was bled to death.But in the 1920's it was discovered that the life of the flesh was in the blood. Which was stated in Leviticus 17:11 2800 years before man discovered it. You need to go to the cross and receive Christ as your personal savior and start all over again.God Bless,

Hi Man I may have been taken to church before I was 5 years old. But since we had a big dinner at church on the one day a month we went nobody had to force me to go. I loved to eat so I was the first one ready and saying to everyone else hurry up, lets go. We had church 12 times a year. I suppose you could get really brainwashed in all those meetings.But my grandfather who raised me had a stroke when I was seven years old. From then on I would go down to the road about a 1/4 mile from the house and hitch a ride to church. By the time I was nine we were having church every Sunday. So I hitch hiked rides to church which was 3 miles from where I lived. On certain occasions I rode one of the horses. But taking care of his waste was necessary. So it was better to catch a ride. The Bible has no code to reveal anything in it.There are many charlatans that claim to have found codes in the Bible. If they did it is because the devil gave it to them or showed it to them.But yes the Bible is hard for a person that has not had a personal experience with God being born again and receiving the Holy Spirit to lead a person in all truth. I believe we were created and placed here on earth by an entity that is eternal in existence, has all knowledge, all power and can be everywhere at the same time.You are probably mistaking my guardian angel for a space craft. Why did someone have to evolve? Mankind has actually devolved.God Bless,

Hi Man It was the best that could be produced. I lived in a farming community where we grew our own food. We bought salt, we produced everything else. We ate lots of fish, quail, ducks, deer, bear, coon, rattlesnake, gator tail, and frog legs just to mention a few. We had pork, chickens, all kinds of greens, tomatoes, potatoes, peas, and beans. We grew cane and made syrup from it. Some of it would turn into sugar but grandma preferred to use the syrup to bake cakes and make pies with for sweetener. There was no GMO foods grown. Our bread was made from corn we grew. I was raised by my grandparents who had 3 girls and 4 boys.None of my family was devoutly religious. They were all good people as that was the lifestyle in the 40's. At that time a man's word was worth more than a contract. This is the greatest principle I got from my family. I was taught that when you give your word you do not break it. A job worth doing was worth doing well. You never raise your hand against a woman. You help your neighbor in any way you can. You never took anything that did not belong to you. If you find something it is not yours it belongs to someone so find the owner. There were many other things I was taught but these were the most important.I was not taught the Bible by anyone in my family in fact I don't remember any of them even mentioning it to me. I was born again 14 years before my father was.No to the last part.

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Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

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Genesis 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

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This man was the first life form on planet earth before any plants, trees, animals, and fowl.The woman was cloned from the man after all other life forms existed on earth.This is the oldest story and this world and all the people in it ceased to exist before Genesis 1:2 during the first light period of the 6 days of creation. These people only lived one light period as darkness had not been created until some point before Genesis 1:2The story found in Genesis 1:2-2:3 says concerning mankind:

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Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

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Mankind was created in the image of God. (We are a triune being with a mind, body, and spirit)
Male and female created He 'THEM'.He blessed 'THEM' and told 'THEM' to be fruitful and multiply and 'REPLENISH' (fill the earth with offspring) the earth. If you refill your coffee cup with coffee that means it was full prior to the refilling.Now how many of 'THEM' were created. There is at least 2, but 'THEM' could have been 10 pair, 100 pair, or a thousand or more pairs. The Bible does not say nor does it limit how many of 'THEM' that was created. There was only one immaculate conception and birth which was Emmanuel. All other were conception by copulation. The Hebrew word translated Adam did not exist until the Masoretic text was finished around 800 AD which was only 1200 years ago.The Hebrew word אדם would be transliterated as Adm which is the abbreviation for Administrator which the man was supposed to be. Biblical Hebrew had no vowels as we are used to using. They had consonants that was used for sounds for pronunciation. The vowels you see in Hebrew text was added in 800 AD. How would aliens if they exist look, or act like us if they are not from earth? Give me some evidence I can examine and then maybe I can speak to your works. Until then they are just your thoughts.My position is the Hebrew text that made thousands of predictions that were fulfilled hundreds and thousands of years after they were penned is correct in its original form. That is why I studied Greek, and Hebrew for the last 50+ years.It does not make any difference what you believe or say as it does not make any difference what I believe or say. The only thing that matters is what God had to say.So it is not my way or the highway.God says there is only one way. That way being His way and we don't have any say in what He said. The only thing we can do is to accept it or reject it. You or I or anyone else can not change Gods Word to suite our beliefs. If we change it it is our word not Gods Word.God Bless,

Hi Man This world is not my home so that makes me an alien.God and the angels including the devil are not citizens of this universe. The do travel around in it. The earth is Gods footstool. You are welcome.God Bless.

Hi Man I forgot to mention something about immaculate conception. Which is a conception without copulation. In the late 1700's the first successful human artificial insemination was performed.This proved you can have an immaculate conception without copulation.God Bless,

Hi Phat Why would creation have anything other than belief?That is the only thing anybody has.Scientist believe the universe began to exist. Because it exists today. According to General relativity it could not have existed eternally in the past. If it had it would have reach equilibrium a long time ago. It would be dead with no life on it.According to Alan Guth one of the key assumptions made in these theorems is that the energy-momentum tensor obeys the weak energy condition.An assumption is a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof. Which means it is accepted as truth by faith.Guth further stated:

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If thermalized regions were able to form all the way to past infinity in the contracting spacetime, the whole universe would have been thermalized before inflationary expansion could begin

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Quoted from "Inflationary spacetimes are not past-complete" by Arvind Borde, Alan Guth and Alexander Vilenkin.So the universe had to have a beginning to exist.
My questionis how did it begin to exist?Best scientific answer I have got so far is, "we don't know".But I don't have to say "I don't know". Because I know God created the heavens and the earth.God Bless,