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ringo
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Message 375 of 887 (845666)
12-18-2018 2:00 PM
Reply to: Message 374 by caffeine
12-18-2018 1:45 PM


Re: Canadian "Rules"
caffeine writes:
Because they're two different things.
I know that. I'm just saying that in Canada a party vote would not happen in Parliament, which is why it would not be called a Parliamentary vote.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 378 of 887 (845687)
12-18-2018 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 376 by caffeine
12-18-2018 2:07 PM


Re: Canadian "Rules"
caffeine writes:
The party vote didn't happen in parliament, and was not called a parliamentary vote.
As I already pointed out, PaulK did call it a Parliamentary vote in Message 360.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 380 of 887 (845732)
12-19-2018 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 379 by PaulK
12-18-2018 11:25 PM


Re: Canadian "Rules"
PaulK writes:
Ringo you are still confusing two different votes.
No I am not. I understand the difference. Your post looked to me like the vote that was taken was a Parliamentary vote.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 382 of 887 (845738)
12-19-2018 2:47 PM
Reply to: Message 381 by PaulK
12-19-2018 2:41 PM


Re: Canadian "Rules"
PaulK writes:
It seems pretty clear to me that the Parliamentary vote was the one that Corbyn was proposing as leader of the Opposition, not the Party vote that May had already survived.
Well, it wasn't clear to me.

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ringo
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Message 384 of 887 (845740)
12-19-2018 3:03 PM
Reply to: Message 383 by PaulK
12-19-2018 3:00 PM


Re: Canadian "Rules"
PaulK writes:
It seems pretty obvious to me....
But as I said, not to me. I can see that your post could be read that way.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 386 of 887 (845743)
12-19-2018 3:31 PM
Reply to: Message 385 by PaulK
12-19-2018 3:22 PM


Re: Canadian "Rules"
PaulK writes:
And I can’t see how my post can be read your way.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 512 of 887 (849705)
03-18-2019 4:44 PM
Reply to: Message 511 by AZPaul3
03-18-2019 4:29 PM


Add a referendum....
Referendums are almost always a bad idea. It was an ill-advised referendum that made the mess in the first place.

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ringo
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Message 514 of 887 (849707)
03-18-2019 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 513 by AZPaul3
03-18-2019 4:49 PM


I'd laugh if "Leave" got an even bigger majority.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 518 of 887 (849713)
03-18-2019 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 516 by AZPaul3
03-18-2019 5:47 PM


I don't think the majority of those who voted last time understood the full implications.
I think many of those who voted for exit have been mischaracterized as xenophobes. I, for one, would have voted for exit because I've always thought the EU was a bad idea. I think the economic implications have been vastly exaggerated - i.e. they can not be predicted.
Like more than few thrump voters.
It looks to me like Trump's support is as strong as ever. I predict he'll win a second term (unless he can figure out a way to weasel out of running).

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Message 522 of 887 (849763)
03-20-2019 1:30 PM


Is James Clavell still alive? He should write a book about this.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 532 of 887 (849859)
03-23-2019 12:38 PM
Reply to: Message 529 by Phat
03-23-2019 9:22 AM


Re: Moving Quietly Towards The Exit (Brexit)
Phat writes:
can you explain to me in a nutshell what direction British politics is heading?
It's easier to get in than out, like a fish trap. Shoulda had a pre-nup.

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ringo
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Message 557 of 887 (850072)
03-30-2019 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 554 by AZPaul3
03-29-2019 3:14 PM


AZPaul3 writes:
... do you guys not collapse ineffective governments anymore either?
I can't speak for the UK but in Canada we prefer ineffective governments. A politician who breaks his promises is by far preferable to one who keeps stupid promises.

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ringo
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Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 569 of 887 (850213)
04-03-2019 3:40 PM


I'm sitting at a computer terminal in a public library in the middle of nowhere - a.k.a. Canada. Somebody left a Zwei Euro Cent coin on the table. It's similar to a Canadian 1 Cent coin, which no longer exists. For me, this is the most interesting thing that has happened in the history of the EU.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 571 of 887 (850240)
04-04-2019 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 570 by caffeine
04-04-2019 3:42 AM


caffeine writes:
Which logo do you have on the obverse?
I didn't keep it but as I recall (and looking it up in Wikipedia) it was probably the Austrian version with an edelweiss.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 678 of 887 (858731)
07-23-2019 12:09 PM
Reply to: Message 675 by vimesey
07-23-2019 6:16 AM


Vimesey writes:
And voted for by an electorate of approx 0.2% of the population. Democracy in action eh ?
It's the nature of the beast. In Canada, we got Pierre Trudeau in the same way and he was one of our best Prime Ministers.

All that are in Hell, choose it. -- CS Lewis
That's just egregiously stupid. -- ringo

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