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Dr Adequate
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Message 91 of 381 (845689)
12-18-2018 9:06 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by Faith
12-18-2018 6:23 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
So I take it you couldn't find anyone killed by refugee terrorists? We're to turn away these victims of persecution and torture and rape on entirely theoretical grounds?

P.S: I am pleased to be able to tell you that just as not all Christians follow your version of Christianity, not all Muslims follow your version of Islam. (Also, not all refugees are Muslim, is it really necessary to point this out?)

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 92 of 381 (845690)
12-18-2018 9:09 PM
Reply to: Message 86 by Faith
12-18-2018 6:26 PM


Re: PC is simply a lie
The "humor" of pernicious ignorance.

Go listen to the video linked in the OP to hear a Russian comedian talk about the oppression of PC as the same as what he experienced in the USSR.

How can I possibly listen to it? Since PC is just the same as the USSR, the video has been taken down by the totalitarian PC state, the comedian has been sent to a forced labor camp, and you have been declared insane and incarcerated in a high-security mental hospital for recommending that I watch it. Even now the PC-KGB are knocking on my own door, but I plan to put all the blame on you and maybe Percy.

Sheesh, Faith, just as you are free to talk endlessly about how you've been silenced, he is free to whine endlessly about how he's oppressed. No-one gives a damn. So far as I know we're the only people who care even a little bit what you say (and if you stopped posting here we'd stop doing that) and we have not in fact put you in a gulag for saying it.

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Larni
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Message 93 of 381 (845692)
12-18-2018 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Faith
12-18-2018 6:08 PM


Re: PC is simply a lie
It it has always been the case that this is true. The difference is now your particular views are no longer the dominant views.

You are experiencing what (for example) a gay man or woman experienced in previous generations (in terms of social sanctions for not towing the cultural line).

This is bad for you now. But it’s always bad for someone: it used to be people unlike you, now it is people like you.

Society moves on: I’m my nephews ‘bigoted uncle’ because I laugh at Ross heavy episodes of Friends.


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286

Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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riVeRraT
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Message 94 of 381 (845693)
12-18-2018 11:06 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Tangle
12-17-2018 3:56 AM


I never said I told them about my God. I said I was sharing love. My story is one of many stories. I would bet a paycheck that you have offended some people here with your posts. I bet we all have. That's my point, you can never "not offend" or be "inoffensive".

Was I not clear? Pretty amazing to me how many smart people there are here in these forums that can't seem to get the simplest of points. Change my mind. Tell me what is better, teaching people how not to offend, or how not to be offended. I choose the later.


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riVeRraT
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Message 95 of 381 (845694)
12-18-2018 11:13 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Stile
12-17-2018 9:51 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
I agree Stile. I am mainly focusing on but not limited to the current attempt at being inoffensive and the extremes they are taking it to. A example might be the word "ze", since we can no longer say he or she.

We definitely should be teaching respect along with how not to be offended.


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riVeRraT
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Message 96 of 381 (845695)
12-18-2018 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Stile
12-17-2018 2:52 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
There may or may not be millions of examples, (most likely there are) but it is what the media and the left is pushing on us, so it must be "important ". My problems with it are that it is counter productive, and it is not "all inclusive".

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riVeRraT
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Message 97 of 381 (845696)
12-18-2018 11:20 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by PaulK
12-17-2018 3:05 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Paulk, you are part of the problem. Your Trump quote is incomplete, you are fake news, try again. Also, that is not all he has said about the border.

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riVeRraT
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Message 98 of 381 (845697)
12-18-2018 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by PaulK
12-17-2018 3:16 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Not to mention the fact that Trump was more complimentary about the Nazis and their allies who marched in Charlottesville

Actually no, both statements were equal, almost to the letter.

Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.


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riVeRraT
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Message 99 of 381 (845699)
12-18-2018 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by GDR
12-17-2018 3:26 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
I suggest that supporting the idea of the wall comes from a unhappy blend of religion, politics and nationalism

Or that we just want to make sure the people we are going to help aren't going to kill us, either on purpose or by accident, so that we can continue to help. In order to be in a position that allows you to help, you must also take care of yourself. Jesus once knocked over a table or 2 in the temple.


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riVeRraT
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Message 100 of 381 (845700)
12-18-2018 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by GDR
12-17-2018 7:27 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Funny idea of love.

When children get punished, they don't feel love either, but it is.

Edited by riVeRraT, : Spelling on mobile and poor eyes, lol


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riVeRraT
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Message 101 of 381 (845701)
12-18-2018 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Dr Adequate
12-17-2018 9:38 PM


There is objective evidence that I am. There is ample, widespread and convincing evidence that people all across the political spectrum are irritated by people trying to make converts to their faith, and that they have been irritated by this long before the concept of "PC" existed. You yourself would probably not relish spending ten minutes listening to an earnest Jehovah's Witness explaining why everyone in your church is going to hell. This is not because you are tainted with political correctness, this is because of human nature. Being proselytized to is embarrassing, like you'd feel if someone you found really unattractive was explaining to you at length why you should date them.

I couldn't agree more. That's why the way I share my faith is by loving people and not talking about it unless they ask.


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riVeRraT
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Message 102 of 381 (845702)
12-18-2018 11:39 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by herebedragons
12-17-2018 10:29 PM


Re: Still missing the point.
So let me get this straight... people were offended that you were feeding the poor, helping the sick, caring for those most in need, giving them clothes, digging wells, building schools, etc... ?? That seems odd. Can you think of any reason they would be offended by those things? Maybe there was some other way you were sharing "God's love"

Yes I can think of reasons. Because some people are bad people. Like for instance, we had a charity and were building homes for children born with AIDS across the planet. Some countries were not interested and offended we even suggested doing it. Those same people later agreed to it, but said they would build a $50,000 home for $800,000.

Maybe they were not being sensitive to the local culture and trying to push Western values on them. The "greater good" doesn't mean turning them into something they are not.

We don't change people, or try to. God does that.

You cannot control how others react to you. All you can do is to consider the other person more important than yourself and try to be sensitive to their needs and what is important to them. And share God's love by doing right

Yep.


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riVeRraT
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Message 103 of 381 (845703)
12-18-2018 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Dr Adequate
12-17-2018 11:21 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
EVERYONE'S a possible terrorist

Lol! I wonder if all terrorism starts with being offended. Perhaps if they were taught how not to be offended, terrorism would go away.


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riVeRraT
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Message 104 of 381 (845704)
12-18-2018 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by herebedragons
12-18-2018 8:36 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
I find it very sad that an atheist has a better grip on what the Bible teaches than a "TRUE Biblical Christian

Yep, and is why I believe God sent us atheists. But also there are an equal # of atheists that don't get it either.


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riVeRraT
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Message 105 of 381 (845705)
12-18-2018 11:46 PM


No one?
No one has made an attempt to change my mind really. Oh well.

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