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riVeRraT
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Message 98 of 444 (845697)
12-18-2018 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by PaulK
12-17-2018 3:16 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Not to mention the fact that Trump was more complimentary about the Nazis and their allies who marched in Charlottesville
Actually no, both statements were equal, almost to the letter.
Edited by riVeRraT, : No reason given.

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riVeRraT
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Message 99 of 444 (845699)
12-18-2018 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by GDR
12-17-2018 3:26 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
I suggest that supporting the idea of the wall comes from a unhappy blend of religion, politics and nationalism
Or that we just want to make sure the people we are going to help aren't going to kill us, either on purpose or by accident, so that we can continue to help. In order to be in a position that allows you to help, you must also take care of yourself. Jesus once knocked over a table or 2 in the temple.

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riVeRraT
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Message 100 of 444 (845700)
12-18-2018 11:30 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by GDR
12-17-2018 7:27 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Funny idea of love.
When children get punished, they don't feel love either, but it is.
Edited by riVeRraT, : Spelling on mobile and poor eyes, lol

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riVeRraT
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Message 101 of 444 (845701)
12-18-2018 11:33 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by Dr Adequate
12-17-2018 9:38 PM


There is objective evidence that I am. There is ample, widespread and convincing evidence that people all across the political spectrum are irritated by people trying to make converts to their faith, and that they have been irritated by this long before the concept of "PC" existed. You yourself would probably not relish spending ten minutes listening to an earnest Jehovah's Witness explaining why everyone in your church is going to hell. This is not because you are tainted with political correctness, this is because of human nature. Being proselytized to is embarrassing, like you'd feel if someone you found really unattractive was explaining to you at length why you should date them.
I couldn't agree more. That's why the way I share my faith is by loving people and not talking about it unless they ask.

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riVeRraT
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Message 102 of 444 (845702)
12-18-2018 11:39 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by herebedragons
12-17-2018 10:29 PM


Re: Still missing the point.
So let me get this straight... people were offended that you were feeding the poor, helping the sick, caring for those most in need, giving them clothes, digging wells, building schools, etc... ?? That seems odd. Can you think of any reason they would be offended by those things? Maybe there was some other way you were sharing "God's love"
Yes I can think of reasons. Because some people are bad people. Like for instance, we had a charity and were building homes for children born with AIDS across the planet. Some countries were not interested and offended we even suggested doing it. Those same people later agreed to it, but said they would build a $50,000 home for $800,000.
Maybe they were not being sensitive to the local culture and trying to push Western values on them. The "greater good" doesn't mean turning them into something they are not.
We don't change people, or try to. God does that.
You cannot control how others react to you. All you can do is to consider the other person more important than yourself and try to be sensitive to their needs and what is important to them. And share God's love by doing right
Yep.

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riVeRraT
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Message 103 of 444 (845703)
12-18-2018 11:42 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Dr Adequate
12-17-2018 11:21 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
EVERYONE'S a possible terrorist
Lol! I wonder if all terrorism starts with being offended. Perhaps if they were taught how not to be offended, terrorism would go away.

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riVeRraT
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Message 104 of 444 (845704)
12-18-2018 11:45 PM
Reply to: Message 72 by herebedragons
12-18-2018 8:36 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
I find it very sad that an atheist has a better grip on what the Bible teaches than a "TRUE Biblical Christian
Yep, and is why I believe God sent us atheists. But also there are an equal # of atheists that don't get it either.

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riVeRraT
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Message 105 of 444 (845705)
12-18-2018 11:46 PM


No one?
No one has made an attempt to change my mind really. Oh well.

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riVeRraT
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Message 128 of 444 (845794)
12-21-2018 7:33 AM
Reply to: Message 106 by PaulK
12-19-2018 12:15 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
No, I want to defend the RIGHT to be a bigot. That's because it's freedom of speech. Not to mention, your idea of bigotry, and the actual definition are 2 different things. So it is a fact that what is considered bigotry is subjective, not objective.
The only ones stiring up xenophobia is the left. Very few people in the US are actually xenophobic. Again, that subjectiveness (more like stupidness) is at play here.
The whole point of this thread is about the subjective differences in what is considered offensive. For years and years, progressives and liberals would always fight against such ideas. What happened? Are we that brainwashed?

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riVeRraT
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Message 129 of 444 (845796)
12-21-2018 7:40 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by PaulK
12-19-2018 12:22 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
Really ? I had in mind Trump’s statement that there were fine people on both sides at Charlottesville. That’s more positive than some, I assume, are good people - without all the preceding negatives
Can't you even see what you did there? This why the left are being called hypocrites every single day. You have presumed in every one of your assertions about Trump that he is a xenophobe, a racist, etc. etc. How is there not a preceding negative this time? Oh I know, because it doesn't suit your narrative and suddenly it's time to throw logic out the window. I would love to make a TV show, "when scientists become witch doctors". Trump also denounced the KKK and white supremacists on multiple occasions, so a preceding negative is a precedent.
This is why you are fake news. You take things out of context to suit your narrative. To people like me it plays out like a bad "B" movie, and I can no longer take anything you say seriously. Thank God I taught myself how not to be offended.

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riVeRraT
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Message 130 of 444 (845797)
12-21-2018 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 108 by PaulK
12-19-2018 12:24 AM


Sure, right in this thread LMAO.

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riVeRraT
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Message 131 of 444 (845799)
12-21-2018 7:44 AM
Reply to: Message 109 by GDR
12-19-2018 2:26 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
Your first paragraph was well put. However it really doesn't address my attitude towards having a border, and please don't put me on the same ship as Faith.

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riVeRraT
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Message 132 of 444 (845800)
12-21-2018 7:46 AM
Reply to: Message 110 by Tangle
12-19-2018 3:21 AM


What does sharing love mean? What did you do, grab someone by the Trumpian pussy?’
I don't offend anyone, occasionally I might offend someone
Lmao. So helpful.

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riVeRraT
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Message 133 of 444 (845801)
12-21-2018 7:48 AM
Reply to: Message 111 by Larni
12-19-2018 3:36 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
I guess that why kids scream at the sky now, and have safe places with puppies and play-doe.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 134 of 444 (845802)
12-21-2018 7:50 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by caffeine
12-19-2018 5:42 AM


I agree with that. I said the same thing. But today we have people being hung in the public square because of one subjective offence statement. We are on the path to make it a crime to be offensive.

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