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LamarkNewAge
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12-20-2018 10:14 PM


I was just attempting to understand what the heck got Dr. Jerome Corsi into the Mueller mess. I haven't been paying much attention to the political news in the past months (aside from the elections), and I only learned of the Corsi situation weeks ago. I immediately felt that there must have been an association with Roger Stone and that was how he somehow managed to get tangled up into this investigation.

I just found out that I was correct.

Corsi bragged, in 2017, that his 2016 articles were the spark that got Stone interested in WikiLeaks dumping the Podesta emails.

(It earned him multiple days of interrogation from the Mueller team.)

https://www.cnn.com/...i-plea-deal-robert-mueller/index.html

But Stone says he got tipped by a progressive associate of WikiLeaks.

https://www.cnn.com/...roger-stone-wikileaks-hack/index.html

(The alleged crimes, of ALL of these men, would be possible perjury, and not due to an association with WikiLeaks in and of itself)

I managed to start looking into the latest conspiracy theories, and got a bit off topic.

Vox had an article on some crazy stuff.But tucked into the solidly anti-conspiracy-theory article was this (sort of) nugget:

quote:

These postings were thrilling for people steeped in far-right conspiracy theory lore — from the very real Operation Mockingbird, a CIA effort to blackmail journalists and give out false information to share propaganda, to the wild theory that Huma Abedin, a former Hillary Clinton staffer and ex-wife of Anthony Weiner, was secretly working for the Muslim Brotherhood. (She wasn’t.)

https://www.vox.com/.../qanon-trump-conspiracy-theory-reddit


Mockingbird? What is this you say?

Here was article the the hyper link lead to:

quote:

How the CIA Paid and Threatened Journalists to Do Its Work

Americans love a good conspiracy theory, and plenty have been bandied about this election season. But what about conspiracy theories that turned out to be, well, not theoretical at all?

The CIA has long played the international game of propaganda required by an intelligence agency, but during the Cold War, the Agency paid and intimidated journalists into helping promote its messages. Famous Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein broke the story in 1977 for Rolling Stone. Bernstein revealed the workings of Operation Mockingbird, in which many journalists – included Pulitzer Prize winners – joined the CIA’s payroll, writing fake stories to disseminate the agency’s agitprop and providing intelligence. Other journalists were threatened and blackmailed into cooperating with Mockingbird, and many were given falsified or fabricated information about their actions in order to engender their support for the CIA’s mission. The program has never been officially discontinued.

Tom Cruise is back as Jack Reacher in Jack Reacher: Never Go Back, taking on a conspiracy of epic proportions in a fight for the truth. Don’t miss the action in theaters and IMAX, opening October 21

https://www.thedailybeast.com/...-journalists-to-do-its-work


(The 1977 Carl Bernstein RS piece can be found online)

The CIA is always very relevant when Jerome Corsi is the subject.

False news has always existed. Jerry Corsi is a right-wing type of guy, but he actually holds "left-wing" conspiracy theories such as the CIA killing JFK (which he says is a more important issue to him than anything) and the CIA being behind 9/11 2001. He just wrote a book that predicted Trump would be assassinated by the CIA due to his anti-war views. News Max has been promoting the book with mailers.

Jerry Corsi has been the conspiracy theorist that always gets major media attention.

2004

He wrote the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth book, Unfit For Command, which got major media attention.

2008

He was interviewed extensively (on every network!), during the campaign, once his book on Obama came out late in the race. He attempted to make the case that Obama was a Marxist.

2012 (or 2013, I forget)

The very day his book on Obama being foreign-born came out, Obama finally decided to present his birth certificate. Corsi, later that night, on Coast to Coast with George Noory, said he felt the newly released certificate was a forgery (though later arguments from Birthers centered around Hawaii supposedly having a looser policy on issuing birth certificates and one that would enable somebody foreign-born to get a Hawaiian birth certificate)

My conclusion?

My point?

This attention toward Jerome Corsi will really bring the False News debate into high gear. And he is articulate (and actually a pretty nice guy), and he really does seem sincere though many feel he can't be seen as 100% honest (for his endless advocacy of multiple conspiracy theories).

Perhaps the CIA should get attention when False News is a hot topic?

Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.


  
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