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riVeRraT
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Message 135 of 444 (845803)
12-21-2018 7:53 AM
Reply to: Message 114 by Stile
12-19-2018 9:12 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
Oh my dear Lord.
Not being called names!!
The tyranny!!!
Whatever shall we do???
That is a bullshit reply full of hypocrisy. This is exactly what we are saying. Why does it only apply to you? In Europe you can be arrested for that, and there are people here who want the same. Do you even think before you type?

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riVeRraT
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Message 136 of 444 (845804)
12-21-2018 7:55 AM
Reply to: Message 115 by Stile
12-19-2018 9:33 AM


Re: No one?
Sticks and stones may break my bones but names can never hurt me.
But we aren't teaching that anymore. That's the point.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 137 of 444 (845805)
12-21-2018 7:57 AM
Reply to: Message 117 by Larni
12-19-2018 2:35 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
When I was a lad in Northern Ireland the Proddies and Chathos were always killing each other with terrorism. Can I take it that this shows that terrorism is built into Christianity
Terrorism is built into Humanity. Islam has it built in their book, Christianity does not.

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riVeRraT
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Message 138 of 444 (845806)
12-21-2018 7:58 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by ringo
12-19-2018 2:41 PM


I agree. I should have said that.

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riVeRraT
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From: NY USA
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Message 139 of 444 (845807)
12-21-2018 8:00 AM
Reply to: Message 119 by Dr Adequate
12-19-2018 8:02 PM


Just read this thread lol. It's no different than any other I have been involved in. I have been pointlessly attacked, not because of my notions, but because of my perceived notions.

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riVeRraT
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Message 140 of 444 (845808)
12-21-2018 8:01 AM
Reply to: Message 120 by Dr Adequate
12-19-2018 8:04 PM


Re: Respectful Offense
Yes, and is why we should be looking to eradicate all forms of terrorism. Why don't use one form of terrorism to justify another.

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riVeRraT
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Message 141 of 444 (845809)
12-21-2018 8:11 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by herebedragons
12-20-2018 11:03 AM


Re: Still missing the point.
Very well put! Thanks.
Of course we should try to be PC and not offend, but as you displayed in your cool story, offensivness can be very subjective and that is why we should never head down that road like the video I posted in the OP.
We should teach people how not to be offended, and how not to offend, but to me teaching people how not to be offended has more value and is better for society overall. Especially since there is no way to avoid being offensive at one point or another. It's like "teach a man to fish". Our focus today is on giving out fish.

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riVeRraT
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Message 142 of 444 (845810)
12-21-2018 8:13 AM


Christianity
Can we stop talking about Christianity unless it has something to do with the topic? It's getting no one any where.

  
riVeRraT
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Message 153 of 444 (845825)
12-21-2018 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Phat
12-21-2018 8:51 AM


Re: God Tests Us
Yes, demonizing gives them authority to throw PC out the window and offend at all costs. Many years ago someone on this forum said "there is no tolerance for intolerance". So anything they deem to be intolerance in their tiny brains gives them the green light to be assholes.
Yes, many Christians think they represent God. This is a huge mistake. They are juding themselves and others, exactly opposite of Jesus's teaching. It causes them to be offensive. I believe that the Holy Spirit is in all of us to some degree, and any person is capable of knowing how wrong it is to act all righteous because you call yourself a Christian.

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riVeRraT
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Message 155 of 444 (845831)
12-21-2018 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 144 by Stile
12-21-2018 8:54 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
Again, if you think Trump getting called a few names is "tyranny" by all means let's see your example.
Without an example that makes any sense... your bluster falls flat.
I never called it Tyranny, but it's going that way. I believe I explained it a few times. The problem if you call people names (with no factual foundation) and expect not to be called names, you are a hypocrit.
The point isn't that "there are people here who want the same." Who cares about a few loons?
The point is that "there is no progress here being made in that direction." And if you think there is, well, again... without you showing an actual example with some meat on it... your bluster falls flat
It's not just a few loons. It is a narrative pushed by the main stream media. If you have been watching the news, lots of people have lost their jobs over things they said. All of Trump supporters are hated over things Trump said (and subsequently taken out of context). For God's sake people are getting their heads smashed in. Are you being willfully ignorant on this subject?

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 190 of 444 (845891)
12-21-2018 6:31 PM
Reply to: Message 145 by PaulK
12-21-2018 8:54 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
Freedom of speech, then, would seem to include the right to call a bigot a bigot
Well duh. Just don't go making laws about your idea of bigotry.
Please explain how my idea of bigotry is different from the actual definition
I already have.
And as we have seen there is an unfortunate amount of racism still around in the US
And there always will be. Racism was on decline from the 70s until Obama took office. It's hardly the problem it was, and the people fighting against it are pussies compared to fighting for it back when it wasn't popular to do so. I know because I have fought against it my whole life. Being against racism in the 70s and 80s was a lot different than today. It's a joke what I see today. Hardly worth the press it gets.
Perhaps you should consider the notion that there is more to it than mere offence
I do.
Perhaps also you should consider the faults of those on the Right
I do. Stop using it as some kind of justification. 2 wrongs do not make a right.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 191 of 444 (845892)
12-21-2018 6:34 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by PaulK
12-21-2018 9:05 AM


Re: Respectful Offense
You really didn't address any of my points with fact. You are just name calling, what you do best and why you aren't taken seriously by me.

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riVeRraT
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Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
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Message 192 of 444 (845893)
12-21-2018 6:35 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by PaulK
12-21-2018 9:07 AM


And again.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 193 of 444 (845894)
12-21-2018 6:40 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Stile
12-21-2018 9:27 AM


Re: No one?
Is legislation being introduced?
If so, is it restricted into reasonable, specific areas or is it a wide ridiculous arc
It's becoming more and more of a conversation. This is NBC...
https://www.google.com/...w.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna832246

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 441 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 194 of 444 (845896)
12-21-2018 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 151 by Stile
12-21-2018 9:27 AM


Re: No one?
Let's see the meat behind this. Is there anything real to worried about? Or is riVeRraT himself simply being offended by a few loony comments and he just needs to learn to toughen up and deal with such minor inconveniences like everyone else does?
For me it's not about "toughening up". I will fight to keep my rights, and not have other people like Paulk tell me what is this is or that with his subjective commentary.
Let's see the meat behind this. Is there anything real to worried about
I guess Antifa smashing heads in the street over "hate speech" or "white supremacists marches" don't qualify as meat? When was the last time we even saw a white supremacists march? Wtf?
150 posts and I have nothing? You have your head in the sand bro?

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