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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
When I was a lad in Northern Ireland the Proddies and Chathos were always killing each other with terrorism. Can I take it that this shows that terrorism is built into Christianity? Roman Catholicism is really paganism onto which some Christian teachings have been grafted -- or alternatively, Christianity which degenerated into paganism which came to dominate with its superstitions and worldly ambitions. Their aim is like Islam's, to rule the world, and they did more or less do that at least in the West for many centuries. The papal leadership and the Jesuits still have that same mindset, even if most Catholics don't have a clue about it at that level. But they do get incited to kill Protestants on occasion, and persecute Jews. And in Ireland unfortunately some Protestants have retaliated although probably at nowhere near the murderous ferocity of the IRA. But none of that is justified in the Bible, we are actually called to die to ourselves and not retaliate. If the Protestants had consistently done that in Ireland a lot of them would no doubt have died, as of course so many did under the Roman Caesars and the Roman Church's persecutions through the Middle Ages too, but that would have been the more Christian thing to do. So no, terrorism is certainly not built into true Biblical Christianity, though it is built into the written documents of Islam. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
And so could everyone else. What we need to ask is how often this actually happens among refugees and how this compares to other groups such as, I dunno, conservatives. No. It's written in the holy books of Islam, it is not written in any conservative or Christian holy books, and in the Bible we are commanded to die and not retaliate.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Any Muslim could be a terrorist, and could become a terrorist at any point even if not at the moment. {because killing infidels is officially prescribed by their religious writings}[/gs] People could say that abhorrent behaviour is built into Christianity. So could anyone even Christians. Only by being perniciously Bible-illiterate could anyone say that. So you are willfully ignorant of the teachings of Islam. Unfortunately it isn't only you who might suffer for your ignorance but your neighbors whom you are supposed to love as much as the Syrians. You might try to learn something about the aims of Islam to take the world for Allah some time. Individual Muslims may not know much or anything about that but they are part of the plan in spite of themselves.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Phat writes:
His point is that the political correctness crowd is making it a crime, to be blunt and bigoted. ... ... attempting to legislate morality and create a leader that fills these expectations. Or something like that. Yes, I agree this is the idea he's attempting to convey. My response is, in the words of the Mighty Thor: "Is it, though?" Is legislation being introduced? The only legislation I'm aware of is the "legislation" forced on us not by the legislating body but by the Supreme Court that extended marriage to gays. And that has had the repercussion of persecuting Christians asked to provide services for a gay wedding and refuse to do so. But beyond legislation there is social persecution too. Tucker Carlson's talk show has been dropped by many advertisers because he said that illegal aliens are making the country "poorer and dirtier." I guess that's translated into PC speech to make it a racist statement though of course it isn't. So Carlson isn't being persecuted by legislation but by the Marxist PC mentality that has come to dominate society.
Is there anything real to worried about? Or is riVeRraT himself simply being offended by a few loony comments and he just needs to learn to toughen up and deal with such minor inconveniences like everyone else does? It's very real to conservatives and Christians, though the Left seems to remain quite blind to it.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Christianity has a lot to do with this topic it seems to me. Here we have 2 professing Christians who object to not being able to say things that are offensive to others. But if you think about PC in terms of justice and how the words we use can build up or tear down; give justice or judgement; mercy or condemnation; compassion or indifference - it very much becomes a matter of Christian perspective. If there is any group that should value justice, mercy and compassion it should be Christians, but I fear many have lost sight of those values and have embraced fear, judgement and selfishness. Maybe I miss understand your motives and reasoning. Change my mind. Give some real examples of the problem you describe. I gave a couople examples in the post just above this, one from the Christian perspective, one about a conservative talk show host Tucker Carlson. I'm not defending anyone's being racist or saying racist things. Racism is utterly against Christian doctrine. We are all descended from one set of parents so we are all related to each other across all racial lines. My problem with this kneejerk PC accusation of racism is that it is FALSE, all kinds of things are being called racism which are not. It's hardly possible to talk about wanting a border wall for instance without someone making a sneering remark about "brown people" and utterly trashing all attempts to communicate rationally about this. I point out that PC comes from Cultural Marxism, which it does, it comes out of Marxist "Victim" ideology which aims to destroy western civilization and has just about done so and may yet finish it off for good. So what do I get from Dr. A? A nasty cartoon suggesting I'm being anti-semitic by pointing out this truth, and aligning me with those who object to racial intermarriage as well. Typical PC thinking: it's nothing but character assassination, no interest in the actual facts at all. No, it is not about justice at all, HBD, sorry. It's about destroying Christian civilization.
Christianity has a lot to do with this topic it seems to me. Here we have 2 professing Christians who object to not being able to say things that are offensive to others. Such as that we need a border wall to protect the nation?. There's nothing racist about that but PC says it's racist. Such as that homosexual acts are sin? Such as that gay marriage is a violation of God's Law? No way to avoid "offending" people once God's own word is defined as offensive and laws are put in place to punish it. Of course if they didn't go out of their way to force Christians to take a stand on this there wouldn't be a problem, but that's the whole point of PC, ultimately to criminalize Christians. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
boo hoo, I really feel for snowflakes on the right who think they can say/do whatever they want but not face any consequences. (that was sarcasm) Yup, there you have it. So much for freedom of speech, so much for the American Constitution, so much for the free society. It's the truth that suffers too in this zeal to call everything racist. Do go listen to that video in the OP. That Russian guy knows what oppression is. We're getting there and your comment is evidence. Right, Tucker Carlson must be punished for saying something absolutely true that is NOT racist, because of the Thought Police. This evil is going to bring down the whole nation. Well, it's already just about brought down all of western civilization as a whole. You won't know what hit you of course. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Of course not, I'm not for forcing anything, I'm pointing out this evil, this insanity that leads advertisers to act like this. What we need to do is expose PC for what it is and stop this insanity of pointing the finger at perfectly innocent remarks.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No, I am not for forcing anything. Please reread my previous post. And I do hope that eventually you will recover from your severe case of ideological poisoning.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Oh blah blah blah. I don't care where it's coming from, it's evil and it's aimed against Christians.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BUSINESSES, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE IDEOLOGY THAT HAS THEM IN THRALL ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE. IT'S INSANE AND IT'S EVIL AND IT'S DESTROYING ALL FREEDOMS AND EVERYTHING GOOD IN THIS WORLD. YIKES, I HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes it's possible to use freedom of speech in the service of tyranny, that may be the ultimate reason America will collapse and become just another third world cesspool governed by a murdering Antifa general.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
We hear often how right-wing demagogues are so hounded on a school campus that they cannot give their talk and are thus denied their "right to free speech". I submit that this IS the right of free speech in action. Free from government interference but with the full force of social opposition in all its glaring glory. You have a right to speak without being thrown in jail. You have no right to speak free from social backlash and opposition, even disruptive opposition I see. So one has freedom of speech even if Antifa is beating your audience to a pulp and spraying mace in their faces, to the point that the speaker has to be hurried out the back door and never gets to speak at all. That's freedom of speech according to the Left I guess.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
One of the big experiments in this country is to make the freedom of speech, and the demonstrations of opposition to what is said, absolute. Well, as absolute as we can without allowing them to incite immediate violent action. Antifa's method IS violent action. They beat people up.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Again, anyone can become a terrorist. You are ignoring my one simple point: The written documents of Islam directly address the reader with commands to murder infidels. That does not exist in the Bible or in any other religion that I know of. Some total ignoramus who thinks he's to obey commands addressed to the Israelites 3500 years ago is a ridiculous comparison. And besides, how many Christians do you know who have taken such a command from the Bible and shot up a crowd or drove into a crowd or did a suicide bombing as if commanded to do so?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Funny how one doesn't hear the Left condemning the beatings of right wingers by the misnamed Antifa if it's "illegal" according to them. Nobody stops them, even the police are in cahoots with them. I suspect there are plenty on the Left who applaud them.
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