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Message 1495 of 4573 (824278)
11-25-2017 11:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1489 by Percy
11-06-2017 3:40 PM


Re: Jeff Flake Responds
Jeff Flake (Republican Senator from Arizona), who announced a couple weeks ago that he would not be running for another term because he could not be party to the Trump's ugly politics,...
I don't know if the following is a good analysis of things, but...
Tracking Congress In The Age Of Trump | FiveThirtyEight
Choose the SENATE box (if needed, it seems to be the default), and then click on the TRUMP SCORE column header to sort.
This shows the various Senator's support for Trump positions. Republicans range from quite a few at 96.2% down to Susan M. Collins at 80.8%. Jeff Flake is at 90.0% and Bob Corker is at 86.3%. BTW, John McCain is at 84.0%.
Democrats/Independents ranged from 53.8% to 9.6%. Bernard Sanders is at 15.4% and Elizabeth Warren is at 11.5%.
I guess that ugly politics and (possibly) ugly policy might not be the same. To their (dubious) credit, both Flake and Corker do come in in the bottom 10 for Republican Senator support for Trump policy positions.
Moose
Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add the "(... default)".

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"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 1514 of 4573 (824902)
12-04-2017 9:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1508 by Percy
12-04-2017 9:05 AM


Re: Dealing With the Unexpected
Don't recall if I've posted any of this before, if so, here it is again.
Parody Project -
More there, Trumpwise and otherwise.
Confounds the Science - (Parody of) Sound of Silence - REMIX
The Tweeter (Lie Lie Lie) - Parody of The Boxer
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 1528 of 4573 (825215)
12-10-2017 12:04 AM


A dream...
Something e-mailed to me. Probably because I'm not a Facebook member, this doesn't play well for me, but I can see where it's going.
Update Your Browser | Facebook
Moose

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Minnemooseus
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Message 2000 of 4573 (830520)
04-01-2018 7:21 PM


Tillerson Scrubbed From State Dept Website
Tillerson Scrubbed From State Dept Website - TPM – Talking Points Memo
I thought this was going to be an April 1 joke. I had lost track that Tillerson had indeed been given the boot (had to Wiki to confirm that).
Still pretty extreme, but not as extreme as if he were still Secretary of State.
Side note:
On Pence’s Resignation, Trump’s Stroke, and Ryan’s Defection to Russia
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Message 2022 of 4573 (832610)
05-05-2018 11:45 PM


John McCain doesn’t seem to want Trump at his funeral
John McCain doesn’t seem to want Trump at his funeral
quote:
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) appears to be giving the thumbs-down on President Donald Trump attending his funeral.
According to the New York Times on Saturday, members of the ailing maverick’s inner circle have informed the White House that their current plan for his funeral is for Vice President Mike Pence to attend the service to be held in Washington’s National Cathedral but not President Trump.
More to read at the source.
Moose
ABE:
Another little article about the same thing:
McCain Voices Regret For Picking Palin, Wants Pence But Not Trump At His Funeral
Edited by Minnemooseus, : ABE

  
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Message 2086 of 4573 (834970)
06-15-2018 8:19 PM


Trump trying to get another lawyer
If image doesn't work (source page)
By the way, did your hear that Justify has declined meeting with Donald Trump, saying "If I wanted to see a horses ass, I would have come in second".
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

  
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Message 2143 of 4573 (835904)
07-03-2018 11:37 PM


Merrick Garland revisited (from 2 years ago)
quote:
Orrin Hatch once said there was no question Merrick Garland could be confirmed to the Supreme Court.
Hatch is one of the most respected U.S. senators and has served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee on three separate occasions. Hatch has also been an outspoken advocate of the Republican strategy to wait to confirm a Supreme Court nominee until after the presidential election in November, recently telling the Federalist Society that this was the chickens coming home to roost for the Obama Administration.
But Hatch has also been a long-time advocate for Merrick Garland, who President Obama will nominate to the Supreme Court on Wednesday. In 2010, when he was considered for the slot that ultimately went to Elena Kagan, Hatch said that he had known Garland for years. He added that, if nominated, he would be a consensus nominee and that there was no question he would be confirmed.
And just last week, he praised Garland and indicated he was a qualified candidate, saying, The president told me several times he’s going to name a moderate [to fill the court vacancy], but I don’t believe him. [Obama] could easily name Merrick Garland, who is a fine man. He probably won’t do that because this appointment is about the election. So I’m pretty sure he’ll name someone the [liberal Democratic base] wants.
By nominating Garland, Obama has put Republicans like Hatch on their back foot. They’ll argue that this is about processabout waiting for the American people to decide. Obama’s nomination of Garland is a transparently political maneuver that shows just how transparently political his opponents are being.
My "big print".
Source
Hatch later turned against Merrick Garland.
I think the Democrats should relentlessly pummel the Republicans with variations of the "big print" quotation information.
Like "Orren Hatch once said that if the President wants the cooperation of of the opposing party, he should nominate a moderate like Merrick Garland". Or something like that.
Percy has repeatedly stated that he does not hate Donald Trump. Well, I'll take the lead - I hate Donald Trump. My adjective/noun choice is "narcissistic boob", although it's hard to not go with the classic "flaming asshole".
And to those retiring Republican Senators (Jeff Flake, Bob Corker, and ???) who would rather quit than fight, I say "If you don't like the actions of the lunatic right wing Republican party, vote against those lunatic right wing actions".
And yes, I'm still pissed off about the railroading (for lack of a better term) of Al Franken. I'm very slowly working on putting a new message out at the Al Franken topic.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

  
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Message 2144 of 4573 (835973)
07-06-2018 12:50 AM


Scott Pruitt resigns from EPA
I found out via Scott Pruitt resigns from EPA in letter claiming God’s providence brought him into Trump’s service
The full title there:
"Scott Pruitt resigns from EPA in letter claiming God’s providence brought him into Trump’s service"
quote:
Trump announced Pruitt’s resignation on Twitter Thursday afternoon following weeks of negative media attention focused on the EPA head. The president said Pruitt’s deputy, Andrew Wheeler, will now lead the agency.
I have accepted the resignation of Scott Pruitt as the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency, Trump said in a tweet. Within the agency Scott has done an outstanding job, and I will always be thankful to him for this.
Is there any way this can't be an improvement?
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 2224 of 4573 (836761)
07-22-2018 1:59 AM
Reply to: Message 2221 by marc9000
07-21-2018 9:00 PM


A narcissistic boob who is our enemies enemy is our friend
There's nothing Christian about Trump. Christians support him because he's a fellow traveler with respect to conservative judgeships and abortion and other Christian causes, not because he in any way resembles a Christian.
YOU GOT IT! There you are Hyroglyphx, wherever you are! They don't support today's Democrats because of Democrats passion for liberal judgeships, the pro abortion causes, and the many other socialist, anti-constitution leanings of today's Democrats. My work here is almost done!
So in summary, Trump's a narcissistic boob, but he's the right wing Christian's narcissistic boob.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 2380 of 4573 (837727)
08-08-2018 12:17 AM


A Conversation with the Only Scientist in Congress
Just a link for any who may wish to read:
A Conversation with One of the Few Scientists in Congress - Scientific American
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

  
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Message 2430 of 4573 (838314)
08-19-2018 2:35 AM


Brennan On Revoked Clearance
Video available via Brennan On Revoked Clearance: ‘This Country Is More Important Than Mr. Trump’ - TPM – Talking Points Memo
The above also links to an interview transcript:
Rachel Maddow interviews John Brennan: Read the full transcript
Moose
Added by edit:
Side note from Trump's time-zone troubles reportedly come up on 'a constant basis'
quote:
Politico published a rather unflattering piece yesterday on Donald Trump’s diplomatic learning curve, which has apparently proven challenging for the amateur president. The article noted one instance, for example, in which Trump studied a briefer’s map of South Asia and mispronounced Nepal as ‘nipple’ and laughingly referred to Bhutan as ‘button.’
Noting the similarities between this and a scene from The Simpsons, Jon Chait noted, It’s like having Homer Simpson as president, but dumber.
The little linked video:
It’s like having Homer Simpson as president, but dumber.
Edited by Minnemooseus, : Added by edit.

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

  
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Message 2467 of 4573 (839294)
09-06-2018 3:36 AM
Reply to: Message 2465 by Percy
09-04-2018 11:41 AM


Re: What will Democrats investigate if they take over the House?
  • Senator John McCain (R-AZ, included posthumously)
  • Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ, would make a good president)
  • Senator Bob Corker (R-TN)
  • Senator Susan Collins (R-ME, inclusion equivocal only because she gets on TV a lot speaking against some Trump positions but largely votes with him)
  • Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK, inclusion equivocal because she only opposes Trump on a few issues while largely voting with him)
The best of the feeble resistance to bad Trump. And I file Flake and Corker under "rather quit than fight", which seems to be the case for a fair number of Republican Congressmen (and women?). What would have more impressed me, would for the above to switched parties to the Democratic party. Now that would be making a statement.
...beginning with Speaker Paul Ryan at the top.
Another "rather quit than fight".
Moose
Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add Paul Ryan bit.

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 2625 of 4573 (843844)
11-21-2018 9:52 PM
Reply to: Message 2624 by Percy
11-21-2018 12:00 PM


Re: I'm Done with Michael Avenatti
I believe the woman. Until proven otherwise Avenatti has disqualified himself as a politician.
He may well be guilty, but this is a guilty until proven innocent system. In what conceivable way might Avenatti "prove himself innocent"?
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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Message 2672 of 4573 (846027)
12-26-2018 11:31 PM


Link to "How Russian Money Helped Save Trump’s Business"

  
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Message 2689 of 4573 (846459)
01-06-2019 7:31 PM
Reply to: Message 2687 by Percy
01-06-2019 12:34 PM


Re: The Way it Should Be
I think the whole Trump pre-2016 election campaign was an effort to loose. He did a failed outstanding job of showing that he shouldn't be President. Way back, I said that Trump was Andrew Dice Clay, only with (maybe) a lot of money. Now he's stuck with the job.
I think that Trump might well be trying to get impeached. His ego won't let him just quit, so impeachment would be his easiest way out of a job he really doesn't want. He'd go out being seen by his core supporters as some sort of martyr to the cause.
Moose

Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment.
"Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham
"The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith
"Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien
"I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose

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