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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You are ignoring my one simple point: The written documents of Islam directly address the reader with commands to murder infidels. That does not exist in the Bible or in any other religion that I know of.
If you hear it said about one of the towns the Lord your God is giving you to live in that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, Let us go and worship other gods (gods you have not known), then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you, you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock. Deuteronomy 12:13-15, Faith. And unlike the bits of the Qur'an that give you conniptions, that's not taken out of context. It certainly IS taken out of context, you are utterly illiterate to think otherwise. That js part of the Law DIRECTED TO THE ANCIENT ISRAELITES AND NOT THE READER OF THE BIBLE Why can't you read, Mr. Genius? Same to all the usual suspects who gave you Cheers. You're all illiterate partisans, not an honest thought from any of you.
And besides, how many Christians do you know who have taken such a command from the Bible and shot up a crowd or drove into a crowd or did a suicide bombing as if commanded to do so? Historically, lots of Christians have killed for Christianity. Liar. If you mean Romanism they killed Christians, that institution is not Christian even if there are some poor deluded Christians who are still captive to it.
If fewer do so now it's because people don't believe so much any more --- no-one cares about usury any more, or thinks of giving all their money to the poor, or worries about voting for a man who has based his life on the Seven Deadly Sins rather than the Ten Commandments. What are you talking about? WHO are you talking about? The Seven Deadly Sins are ROMAN CATHOLIC TRADITION, not Christianity. And who ever KILLED for "usury?" At least we didn't vote for the WOMAN who is an even bigger violator of everything truly Christian. And we voted for Trump's policies, not his personality. Your cheering section are as politically biased as you, not a shred of interest in truth.
The very good and the very bad of Christianity have alike drained out of society... I agree that the Church is in bad shape these days, both cause and effect of the evil culture I'm afraid. But that's not Christianity as I use the term, I'm always talking about true Biblical doctrine, not people. People can be all degrees of deviant from the true doctrine, but the doctrine stands no matter what and that has not died away and never will no matter how far many Christians fall away from it..
... leaving only a gritty residue of scientific ignorance, spiritual pride, and homophobia. Spoken like the usual Christianity-basher. I have hope that the Church will yet rise from its present miserable state. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Wish I had. Just computer problems though.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
there is no right wing violence, but there is lots of left wing violence against MAGA people. And the Left needs to soundly denounce Antifa and take measures to eliminate them or I don't believe any of their claims to oppose them.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Antifa attacks people who are merely attending a lecture. They beat them up for merely attending a lecture. There is no such violence by the right wing and if you've offered any evidence it's behind a link and I'm not going there. Quote it. Not generalities, specifics.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
...there is no right wing violence There certainly is, and one of the things Antifa does is protect people from it. That is a big fat lie and you can't name one such instance. Antifa always attacks people who are not committing any kind of violence whatever. They actually have the nerve to accuse people who merely have an opinion they disagree with of committing violence simply by holding their opinion, and I don't even think they need ahny proof of that if the person is of a race or class they attribute such views to -- and no more than that in their sick minds justifies their physical violence. They are dangerous nutcases and if you all agree with them about that you are the same kind of dangerous nutcases. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Your quote is just a wild assertion. If there's anything more specific at the link you must quote that. I'm not reading it, it's your job to make your case.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You don't kbow how to give specific information, just assertions?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Cut the assertions and generalities, as I asked. That's YOUR job, not mine.
No. Antifa is new and dangerous, and it's your job to make your case. And yes, research IS too hard for me. The right wing who are rising are not violent at all, it's the Left that is violent, the right are the needed correctives to the Left that has been gaining in its evil power for decades now. Thank God for Trump who wants to restore our Constitutiohnal freedoms and the qualities that made America great, but unfortunately the demonic Left still wields a lot of demonic power to back their totalitarian ambitions that would put us all in mental chains and turn the country into a third world cesspool. What, you think you are high enough in the hierarchy to get yours over our dead bodies or what? No you are deceived like most of the Leftist useful idiots who have no idea what is really happening. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's not my job to research YOUR points. Get a clue.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Can't make any sense of what you are saying.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I see. The Fascist values, however, are on the Left these days. We supporters of Trump want to preserve the freedoms America has always been famous for, but the Left is out to turn us all into zombies who toe the party line. They are totalitarian tyrants. That's fascism. And Communism. And Islam. And Roman Catholicism. It is not American conservativism.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.He who surrenders the first page of his Bible surrenders all. --John William Burgon, Inspiration and Interpretation, Sermon II. 2Cr 10:4-5 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God...
Political Correctness is Cultural Marxism If fascism comes to America it will be in the form of liberalism -Ronald Reagan
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Well I never heard of Antifa until they made the news for beating up people trying to attend a lecture at Cal, and then in other places and lately on the streeths of Portland Oregon IIRC. . And I don't know how to pronounce it and don't care. They say really really stupid dangerous things about the rightness of doing violence to people who are doing absolutely nothing but expressing an opinion they don't like. even killing them. How very Hitlerian brownshirtian. They should all be in prison for the indefinite future but such is our sick political climate these days that isn't happening.
In the days right after Trump was elected people merely wearing MAGA hats or shirts were beaten up by gangs, dragged out of their car and beaten up. I don't know if that was Antifa that early on or just Leftists, but the violence has been coming from the Left against innocent people since Trump won the election. And to keep this all in context, I certainly wasn't saying there has never been right wing violence ever, I was saying the violence we are seeing in this political climate now is Leftwing. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes I meant to get to your post but will answer here that the long list really tells me nothing. You say it's all right wing violence but I'd have to read each entry to see for myself if that's the case and I'm not going to do that. And as I just said in a previous post I was not saying right wing violence has never occurred, I had the current context in mind, so if you want to adjust your list for that expectation, and DESCRIBE THE SITUATIONS on your list instead of just listing them, perhaps the conversation can proceed.
Of course it's interesting that you want to get rid of one of the very few members here who oppose the Leftist fascist totalitarian propaganda line. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm not defending white supremacists and Nazis, I don't count them as right wing, they are crazy people, and I do not ascribe Charlottesville to the right wing. I'm talking about ordinary Trump supporters and we/they are not violent.
But many of our opponents are, and where they are not physically violent they are verbally violent, their propaganda gets an airing in all the media that assault the public consciousness daily and even hourley, suppressing the views of their opponents. That is anti-American totalitarian tactics right there, and the violence is all of a piece with it. If you haven't followed the violence of Antifa you are obviously just lost in the usual Leftist blackout of the truth and swallowing all the propaganda they dish out. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I've been talking about the normal right wing, the majority who elected Trump. I could not care less about your semantic points.
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