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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You miss the whole point of course, as unbelievers must. The point is that whatever we do by our own natural inclination is the same thing as God's doing it in us. Do you have any support for that idea from the actual text of Exodus ? And isn’t it also your belief that we have a natural inclination to sin? Do you really want to say that God makes us sin ? We understand that God's causing Pharoah to commit the sin of hardening his heart against the Israelites was not His committing the sin Himself. He's the source of power for everything we do but He doesn't share in our motivations.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I do hate stupidity, yes.
And I definitely hate Antifa. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
If everything I do comes from God, why are you trying to argue with me? That comes from God too of course, the power to do it anyway. Nothing at all happens without Him.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Why on earth do you think such silly crapola is cute?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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It also says Pharoah hardened his own heart. Reading it intelligently leads to the understanding that both are true and equivalent in meaning. God manipulates nothing. When Pharoah changes his attitude he does it himself and God does it, both.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Doesn't need to be the same event.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No it does not need to be the same event. God hardened Pharoah's heart and Pharoah hardened his own heart. Same thing.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Nothing to show, we know it because we understand how scripture is to be read.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That IS just plain crazy.
The quality of the testimony in the Bible is excellent evidence for its veracity, unlike that of all the other stuff you claim is equivalent. I don't know why you guys are so stupid about these things or think we are, or that all of us are. Some people argue from feelings but I don't and most I know don't. The quality of the Bible deserves the belief it asks of us and the more time we spend getting to know it the firmer becomes our basis for believing it. If you don't see it, that's your own inability to judge literature accurately. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't know why you guys are so stupid about these things or think we are, or that all of us are. No, M'love, it is not that we think you're stupid. We know that you are ... lacking in certain critical thinking skills. Your bible is a kluge of political brinkmanship and opportunism with all the veracity of the book of mormon. I know it's way too much to ask but it would be really nice if you'd all stop imputing thinking problems to believers since it's a lie and does not further understanding of anything. Your assessment of the Bible makes you an example of mental derangement. And by the way, the flirty language you use is rather jarring in the context of saying such hateful things to me. I'm sure you're capable of speaking as fully hatefully as you feel. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1445 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Please do. Thank you.
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