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Faith writes: Don't think I've claimed to. In any case it's irrelevant. Leftist is leftist. It's interesting that people who want to eliminate corruption from government, prevent foreign powers from directly influencing our policies, and hold elected officials accountable to the law are now labeled as "Leftists". I guess it goes to show how depraved the Right has become.
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Percy writes: Today Fox News asked: Media acknowledged ‘epic’ border crisis under Obama — what changed?. The story reminds us that Obama declared a border crisis back in 2014 and requested $3.7 billion to deal with it, and then makes the case that nothing has changed since then except that Trump is president. It implies that Democrats acknowledged a border crisis when Obama was president and hypocritically deny it now that Trump is president. Let's also not lose sight of the number of illegal crossings in the Obama years as compared to the Trump years:
Illegal crossings now are a fraction of what they were when Obama declared an emergency. Edited by Taq, : No reason given.
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Faith writes: Both Hillary and Schumer specifically asked for a "barrier" in their own speeches about the glaring need to stop the endless stream of illegal aliens. They have talked about the use of barriers WHERE THEY MAKE SENSE. Where they make sense is in high population areas. Spending massive amounts of money for a fence along the entire southern border makes no sense, and the money could be effective if spent on other measures.
In his speech Trump made it clear that the experts and the people most involved with border problems favor a wall. I have heard plenty of other experts who say that a wall isn't the solution.
INCLUDING BILLIONS TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEMS CAUSED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, NOT EVEN COUNTING THE COSTS OF THE DRUG PROBLEMS THEY BRING WITH THEM. THEY ACCOUNT FOR ALL KINDS OF COSTS BECAUSE OF CRIME AND THE IDIOTIC "RIGHT" TO OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS GIVEN TO THEM FOR WELFARE AND MEDICAL COSTS NOT EVEN GIVEN TO CITIZENS, BECAUSE THEY COME HERE UNABLE TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES, which ought to be a minimal requirement for immigrants. And it's stupid to deny that a wall works when so many Democrats have favored it until Trump wanted it. Illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than native born citizens.
Also family separation was the policy under Obama, not just Trump. Funny how Democrats can get away with such stuff but when Trump does exactly the same thing he's vilified for it. Then why weren't there detention centers full of kids during the Obama administration? Why did those detention centers only come into existence under Trump?
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Faith writes: ust heard a lengthy clip on Mark Levin's show, of Mike Pompeo, our Secretary of State, giving a speech in Cairo in which he blasted the anti-American stupidities of Obama who sold us down the river at every opportunity. Coming from an administration who supported Saudia Arabia after it brutally murdered an American resident, I don't think this has much punch.
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Faith writes: Yeah I've also heard all the leftwing "experts" saying a wall isn't needed. All partisan politics trotted out because it's Trump who wants it now instead of all the Democrats who are also on record wanting it. Which Democrat is on the record as wanting a wall along the entire southern border? Citation please. It's also funny that you think Trump's experts aren't partisan.
Why should we want ANY illegal immigrant criminals here? What kind of bizarre apologetics is this?
Ask Trump that question. He has had illegal immigrants under his employ.
Families were separated under Obama too, the rest is irrelevant.
That is equivocation. There weren't detention centers full of kids during the Obama administration like there is during the Trump administration. The reason? It was official policy not to charge illegal immigrants with crimes immediately upon being captured at the border if they had children. This meant that children were not separated from their parents. Trump changed that policy which resulted in massive numbers of children being taken away from their family. It was a change in policy by Trump that resulted in these massive numbers of children being torn from their parents' arms.
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Faith writes:
Strategic mistakes don't invalidate the basic character of America or of Trump's intentions, this is typical of Leftist thinking, just can't keep things in context or proportion.. Funny how you won't extend that to Obama.
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Faith writes: Trump wants whatever sort of barrier will keep people from crossing the border, he has described it differently at different times. Such a barrier does not exist. People will find ways past any barrier.
He is currently focusing on the steel slats type of wall or barrier because as I understand it that is what the border patrol have recommended. They gave military guys a few simple tools and they were able to get through that barrier in no time flat: https://www.nbcnews.com/...-showed-it-could-be-sawed-n956856
You are all just wasting time and space with your carryings on about different kinds of barriers. Hillary was talking about a barrier. Trump is talking about a barrier. You're all playing silly games with words. Grow up.
Billions of dollars is not a silly game of words.
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Faith writes: Clearly shows the Left-Right divide that he attacks Trump with the usual Leftist lies rather than addressing the actual behavior of the boys at the event. The problem is that if their actual behavior contradicts your fantasies then you reject the facts.
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Faith writes: Not at all. I claim that their behavior was misconstrued. That's exactly what I am talking about.
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Faith writes: You guys really don't know what's going on in this country if you have to keep asking me for evidence of the obvious. Nevada was one of the states at the Midterm elections that passes a law that you could get voter registration at DMV, which everybody knows means illegal aliens can get it. How does registering to vote at the DMV allow illegal aliens to vote?
I haven't followed Infowars in a while but there are plenty of other conservative sources I do follow. Perhaps I shouldn't bother mentioning these things because you're all so ignorant of them and I don't have the energy to track down all the stuff I hear on the radio. The Left is bringing down the country and when it happens you won't know why and that's too bad. Isn't Infowars the source for all the nonsense about juiceboxes turning frogs gay? Why do you think they are a reliable news source?
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Faith writes: They already get drivers' licenses, which they shouldn't, and being able to get voter registration along with the licenses gives them permission to vote. That would be true if voter registration was not at the DMV. All they would need to do is show their driver's license at the regular place if all it takes is a valid driver's license. I don't understand why having it at the DMV is such a problem. Also, to get a driver's license you need a SSN according to their website.
The Left wants the country flooded with illegal aliens with all the percs only citizens should have, because they will ignorantly and predictably vote Democrat. The Left is destroying the country. Just more accusations that you have no proof for. For the record, Obama deported more illegal aliens than any previous president.
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Faith writes: California is about to implode from bankruptcy brought about by their Leftist government. You guys are so blind. In what way is California's government "Leftist", and how do you think it is impacting the economy? From what I have seen, people are leaving because it's too crowded and home prices are through the roof. I know this because I live in a city where a lot of Californians are moving to.
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Faith writes: I'm not lying, this is what I hear, and it's backed up by lots of experts that are interviewed on these conservative talk shows too. They aren't experts if they don't know there is a massive budget surplus in California right now.
Is California rich or poor? It can't be both. Etc. Nobody here seems to be in any mood to grapple with this difference in a reasonable way, you'd rather call me a liar. A reasonable way to approach this contradiction is to see if the state of California has a budget surplus or doesn't have enough money. The facts show that they have massive budget surpluses. So who do you think this supports?
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Faith writes: I am not in a position to judge such things. Yes they are experts. The first sentence contradicts the second sentence.
I believe the conservatives, and i believe them mostly because I saw Marxist propaganda growing for decades, viciously committed to destroying western civilization. That isn't going to change. I guess there is no way to resolve any of this.
As stated before, there are no facts that could ever change your mind.
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Faith writes: Capitalism and socialism ARE opposites. Capitalism can absorb some amount of socialism, but the current Democratic party is really aiming for Marxism despite your disbelief. Obama was raised in a Communist family. Sanders is a Marxist/Communist. The new crop of members of the House are Marxists. The old guard are really closet Marxists anyway. The whole PC mentality comes from Marxism. ANY degree of socialism tends towards Marxism too even if it can be contained by sane heads, and we have very few sane heads on the side of the Democrats these days. I'm pretty sure we can add "Marxism" to the list of things you don't understand. Would you consider the UK to be a socialist country?
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