Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith

But you are assuming it's mental illness so you have no idea really "what mental illness can do" or whether some other factor is at work.

Your "tic" attempt fails miserably. What else do you have?

I'm starting from what is known. Mental illness is known. Demons are not.

Demons are very well known, just not to you. And they love to make you all think they don't exist too, they make up all kinds of weirdly plausible explanations to explain themselves away.

Gullibility is very well known too.
And it loves to make you think Demons exist - in any way it can.And for an even greater point - gullibility is factually known to exist!

It only fails for you - and only because you refuse to consider any explanation but woo. You know damn well that mental "tics" are real. Tourette syndrome is an obvious example.

No they are not. There are better explanations for all of the "manifestations".

A whole room full of people "speaking in tongues" does not have Tourette's Syndrome or anything of the sort. Your supposedly better explanations are simply not. However, I also have suspected that Tourette's may be demonic in origin because of how it comes over a person suddenly, causes jerky physical movements, and is typified by profanities and blasphemies. Nevertheless it has nothing in common with speaking in tongues.

You haven't given even one "better" explanation. The phenomena we are talking about are well explained by demon possession.

Doctors will explain what they see, if they see demons then demons become part of medicine. Demons don't exist so demons aren't part of medicine. Oh come on, that's just ludicrous and it's also not what Phat said. He said he was growling.

Phat said they were voices, and ALSO growling.And Phat is far from the only one to report such phenomena. I keep talking about this book I will probably get, written by a man who discovered these things over many years and finally learned how to deal with them. Christians encounter demons because Jesus defeated them at the cross and they get all upset when you confront them with that information and try to get them to leave people they've been occupying. Unbelievers aren't too likely to encounter them because they don't believe in Jesus.There's also no point in casting demons out of an unbeliever because it is trust in Jesus that protects a person from their returning.I do wonder, however, what would happen if you tried to quote some relevant scripture to a severely "mentally disturbed" person or many such people. Any demons that happen to be present might react or they might lie low knowing you aren't really a believer, I'm not sure. Might be worth the experiment though. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I suspect you guys are scared to death of the idea that demons might be real. Boy would that turn your worldview upside down. The phenomena we are discussing are so clearly better explained by demons than mental illness it takes an effort, and not a very convincing effort either, to deny it.

And gullibility embraces mental illness as an explanation too, because of the heavy indoctrination against demon possession.

But then you're always wrong about everything. Yes it would! It would be fascinating. It'd be pretty cool if the supernatural was real Demons explain nothing. If they did, we'd have the explanation - we'd know for certain. We'd have rock solid evidence, it would be easy. But obviously we don't, just like miracles, they never, ever happen where they can be studied, we just have crazies like you spouting unevidenced crap about natural phenomenon.

And voices come from mouths, not bodies. I see you're already making your excuses before you begin the experiment. Just like your rapture.But it's an easy one to prove, just do a little volunteering at your nearest mental hospital and try it. (Not that it hasn't been done a million times of course with precisely the outcome I prophesy with you - zip.) I also prophesy that you won't do it and give us several excuses.