Trump wants whatever sort of barrier will keep people from crossing the border, he has described it differently at different times. He is currently focusing on the steel slats type of wall or barrier because as I understand it that is what the border patrol have recommended. You are all just wasting time and space with your carryings on about different kinds of barriers. Hillary was talking about a barrier. Trump is talking about a barrier. You're all playing silly games with words. Grow up.
So in Message 2718 of the Trump Bashing Thread Percy applauds George Will for his colorful trashing of Trump. The thing is Trump's supporters don't care about such things, don't care about his style at all, and the more he's put down for such irrelevancies the more people rally to his support.
Trump cares about what we care about, he really truly cares about restoring America's greatness in the world after Obama's attempts to destroy it, he cares about the President's job of protecting American citizens, and his faults don't rise to any level yet that challenges our trust in his dedication to these things.
These are what matter, and if they continue to matter this is what will continue to keep him in the position of the strongest opposition to the Loony Left we've ever had.
The Left has been working feverishly to invent calumnies against him for more than two years now. We know it is all lying propaganda, but Hitler went far on propaganda lies so we know they could succeed at bringing him down. That will be the end of America but we've been expecting it for years anyway. Some are predicting civil war but I don't see the conservative side having that mentality myself.
It isn't Trump hurting the Federal workers, it's Pelosi and her gang who refuse to fund the wall. But Trump gets blamed for all the bad stuff and the criminal stuff his opponents do. That's what you SHOULD know, because his supporters know it.
No I have no interest in contradicting anyone's "characterizations" of Trump, what difference would it make? And as I said it's irrelevant to my side of this.
Not sure why it matters that you found the piece too harsh either. And yes I know Will is a "conservative." "So what?" to that too.
I don't care what anyone has to say about what they dislike about Trump's character.
We survived Nixon, and hopefully we'll survive Trump.
I don't think we've even actually survived Obama. Trump is a finger in the dike but the damage is great and the incessant pounding of lies and propaganda by Trump's enemies could well finish us off.
I didn't get that you were criticizing Will for being so harsh. You tend to embrace all kinds of harsh stuff against Trump so that wouldn't occur to me. And his being a conservative is meaningless since Trump has lots of "conservative" enemies. Will is just another. They are willing to destroy him over what I consider to be irrelevancies, as I already said, which will destroy the only hope we've had in decades for the continuation of America. And your messages are usually fact-free opinion stuff too, big deal.
And you are viciously wrong about the accusations of Trump for racism, xenophobia, bigotry, misogyny, etc etc etc, these are all nothing but Leftist Political Correctness imposed on his desire for a border wall and protection against dangerous immigrants, and what else, his affairs with women? He's never said one word to justify these accusations. So, again, your idea that you criticize only what deserves to be criticized is a big fat self delusion.
Oh, I think everyone but you thinks that racism, misogyny, xenophobia, appointing scoundrels, lying, depriving federal employees of their salaries, attacking American institutions, committing campaign finance violations, obstructing justice, fraudulently attaining office, and treason all deserve criticism, and more. You expressed no interest, but the facts can again be presented to you upon request.
What a pack of PC lies. Not a fact in the lot. The Left makes up such stuff, throws out such accusations, doesn't have a shred of evidence for any of it, and you eat it up. You even call it "fact." Boy are you deceived. it was Hillary who conspired to take the election from Trump, it was Hillary who tried to set him up, all the criminal allegations are lies lies lies, all politically motivated. No there are no actual facts, it's all innuendo.
Canadians don't murder Americans and don't come here without means of support so that they become dependent on our welfare system. It's problems of that sort that make the southern border a problem that the norther border is not, although yes all illegal immigrants shouldn't be here. So it isn't just illegality but the problems the southern illegals bring with them that cost Americans money and even lives, that are forced on us against our will., We shouldn't be put in this position.
Media silence on murders by illegals, and a couple of fake news reports too
Over the last couple of weeks I'd been hearing radio news reports on a series of murders of elderly people in the general area I live in, starting with a small community about forty miles South of Reno. Details weren't given at first but they were warning people not to open their doors to strangers etc. First a 56 year old woman was reported murdered, then a woman in her 70s, a few days later in Reno a couple in their 80s. Then we found out they'd all been shot to death and the circumstances were similar enough to suggest the same killer in all the cases. Finally yesterday they said they'd caught the suspect. An illegal alien with a Hispanic name.
The illusions are on the Left I suspect. What I hear are pretty solid facts and statistics. Thousands of family members of Americans killed by illegals turned out about a week ago, interviewed by Sean Hannity, not reported in the main media for some reason. You have no idea how such facts are suppressed by the Leftwing media.
There are a couple other recent stories the Leftwing media got predictably wrong I might as well mention here: the report that Cohen had been instructed by Trump to lie was made up out of whole cloth. Even Mueller felt it necessary to call it "inaccurate," no doubt a euphemism for "bald-faced lie."
Then there was the story of a bunch of mostly white kids wearing MAGA hats racially harassing an old Indian guy. But the fact is that the old Indian guy, plus a bunch of black guys who call themselves Israelites, were harassing the white kids, calling them and a black kid with them, racist names. The group was from a Catholic school attending a pro-life rally, and they didn't do anything while they were being harassed by the old Indian guy who played a drum at them, and the black group, who were apparently there to protest the pro life rally. It was most likely media bias against white male Catholics wearing MAGA hats that inspired the first accounts. Then the story just died when the truth came out.
All this argument about whether the children really were mean or not seems to me to be missing the more important point - if this is a major story in serious, national newspapers; then you have a deeply dysfunctional press.
I really don't know what point you are trying to make here. I would agree if your point is that they are making a big deal out of what is just a politically correct attack on the Left's favorite targets: white male Catholics at a Pro Life rally wearing MAGA hats. It's all fake news aimed at making the kids look bad. The media bought the story of the old Indian guy hook line and sinker, in which he made the kids out to be aggressors threatening him, but when you see the video it's clear that he approached them and was pounding his drum right in the face of one of them. That kid is smiling in a way that the media called a "smirk" and it could look like a smirk except that the kid said he was just trying to smile to show he wasn't a threat.
According to the kids they were standing at the Lincoln Memorial as they do every year after the Pro Life event, waiting for their buses to take them home. There were these two other groups nearby, a bunch of black "Hebrew Israelites" who shouted foul names at the boys, and the Native American group led by this Nathan Phillips who walked toward the kids and pounded his drum in the face of one of them. He claimed the boys were threatening and were chanting "Build the wall." According to the boys they started doing their school cheers and chants to try to diffuse the situation, but otherwise didn't engage with the other groups and didn't say "Build the wall." They say you have to watch the whole video to get the true story and I haven't done that yet but I'm posting it below for reference, along with Tucker Carlson's report.
Some stories made the kids out to be privileged though later reports describe Covington school as middle class and most of the parents as working class. The whole thing seems to have been completely fake news against a completely innocent group of kids.
Since this story came out depicting them as racist aggressors against an elderly Native American they have been receiving some pretty violent death threats. But all they were doing was standing at the memorial waiting for their bus and the other groups were the aggressive ones, the "Israelites" with some pretty vicious racist namecalling, and the Native American man who had moved toward them beating his drum right in the one kid's face, and then telling a story of absolute total garbage lies making the kids out to be the aggressors.
=========== ABE: I just found this following video which makes the events clearer. Turns out that Black Israelites were yelling at the Native Americans, not at the boys, at least at first, then they start calling the boys vile names.
Listen at least to the last few minutes, starting at 19:33 or so:
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