Tribute Thread For the Recently Raptured Faith

Faith writes:I'm not the one who needs to be convinced anyway.

Some time it might give you a different perspective to quote some scripture to someone with acute mental illness. Like 1 John 4.

Phat writes:...in the name of a form of rationality backed by NOTHING.

AZP writes:Isn't that used to prove all those things that never happened done by those who never existed?

Faith writes:Gosh, it seems to me that if separate voices are heard, especially by more than one normally sane person, voices expressing clear things in English from the region of a person's abdomen, say, rather than a voice from his own mouth, it seems eminently rational to conclude that this is not a normal communication from that person, nor a rumbling stomach due to indigestion, nor a hallucination etc etc etc. Rationality means judging things correctly according to accurate perception, but what you are really talking about is not rationality but imposing a bias on perception.

Faith writes:What "rituals" anyway? None that I know of.

If you DID study these things objectively you would very rapidly discover how wrong you are (and then you could experience being treated like an idiot and a throwback to a primitive irrational time), but instead this whole fiction is presented as if it were fact without any study whatever, purely wishful thinking, while those who have witnessed things that don't fit your preconceived explanations are dismissed as crazy. All a wild conjecture treated as reality. THAT's what's crazy.

Phat writes:Perhaps they dont want to be known.

I know you will argue that "perhaps they dont exist!"

Phat writes:Percy, ringo, tangle and perhaps PaulK all think a similar way. They would argue that the Resurrection never happened simply because "resurrections don't happen".

Phat writes:I believe that there is a truth behind the mythos.

What is so childish of a concept as a Creator of all seen and unseen who exists at some level?

You gaffers would be much more impressed with alien slime found on Saturn or some voyager spacecraft....

only because evidence confirmed it to your minds. This whole idea of evidence....methinks God purposefully wants to avoid being pinned down by it.

Faith writes:You must be thinking of some weird Roman Church thing, because casting out demons is not a ritual in any other context, in fact it is different for each situation.

As for evidence I claim what Phat described is evidence that you willfully ignore without cause. However, I am checking out some sources for myself and if I run across an actual casting out on video I'll post it.

Faith writes:Christianity is a body of knowledge.

Phat writes:I cant afford to embrace fantasy...i need real assurance.

Phat writes:There is no clear nor concise explanation.

Phat writes:And you are fully responsible for your belief.

Using the excuse of lack of evidence wont get you off the hook.

Phat writes:You don't have evidence either.

What I am saying is that you can't use evidence or lack of evidence to excuse your free choice not to have belief.

Phat writes:leprechauns never mess with our social order.

His character, however, is undeniable, based on the writings...which are all we have ever had, even according to you.

We can dismiss Him as fiction, but we cant deny the character described.