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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
The ten guys who think they're Napoleon all think that evertbody else is confused. And you're confused about that too.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
As I've said to you before, if you put less effort into being flabbergasted at everything you hear and put some effort into thinking, you might come up with something worthwhile. Oh such WIT! I'm flabbergasted.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
That doesn't ring true. If you watch leftist media, why don't you hear anything about right-wing violence? Oh it's not for lacking Leftist input that I embrace the Right, that's for sure. There's no avoiding the Left....And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
You seem to have a fundamental lack of understanding about how communication works. If nobody understands what you're saying, the fault lies not in your stars but in yourself. ... it shows a total inability to understand what I've been saying....And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
It's because our birthrate is low that we need immigration.
Of course one could argue that if we keep our birthrate low and encourage incentive and opportunity to improve... Phat writes:
"We" didn't bake the pie. Our grandparents did - and they were immigrants.
...the rest of the nations will simply feel as if they have a right to share in that pie that WE baked. Phat writes:
As I've told you before, you're misinterpreting that scripture. There will always be poor people because somebody is always losing his job at Safeway - but he eventually finds another job and somebody else becomes poor. The poor you will always have with you. Its part of the Original Struggle. And of course, there never was any "Original Stuggle" except in the minds of people who espouse a puny god.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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riVeRraT writes:
It's an error of degree. We have thousands of instances when it DID happen and no instances when it didn't happen. That's pretty significant statistically. It's a very simple premise, please show me how I am wrong.... On the other hand, we have NO evidence that any god ever made a difference. Lots of evidence versus NO evidence. Statistically highly probable versus ZERO probability.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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riVeRraT writes:
We'll just take your word for that, shall we?
See, you don't understand science. riVeRraT writes:
No. Zero probability would prove God doesn't exist. Zero probability just means there is no evidence. If evidence is ever found, the probability would go up.
riVeRraT writes:
You contradict yourself. You just said that zero probability would prove.
Nothing in science is ever proven. riVeRrat writes:
No such thing as "subjective evidence". It's right there in the word: evident. If it isn't evident to everybody, it isn't evidence. There is plenty of evidence God exist, it's just subjective.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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riVeRraT writes:
If you're going to use definitions, at least get them right. Confidence is not the same as either trust or faith.
Definition of "near certain confidence" = high level of trust = high level of faith = faith. riVeRraT writes: Dynamite can actually move mountains.
Jesus said if you have enough faith, you can move a mountain. riVeRraT writes:
No such thing as subjective evidence.
I have evidence, it's just subjective. riVeRraT writes:
No. Your love for your children would be easily demonstrable. If they're well-fed and clothed, if they're sheltered and educated, that's evidence that you love them. If they cringe when you come near them, that would be evidence that you don't. Just like my love for my children is subjective. By your fruits we shall know you. Fruit is evidence.
riVeRrat writes:
Well, in this thread alone you've demonstrated that you don't know the difference between subjective and objective - or the difference between confidence and faith.
I've already proven in this forum that I have a firm grasp of science and how it works. riVeRraT writes:
Most of us here have been around the block a couple of times. All of us could write a long list of all the things we can do. I make a mean broccolli soup myself. This is only some of what I know and do. Some of us are capable of saying something stupid once in a while too.
riVeRraT writes:
We know what you tell us.
You have no position to try and make assumptions about me, you don't know anything about me and are a wrong for even trying. riVeRraT writes:
The "o" in my name stands for "off-topic". It's one of my favorite places, that and thin ice. You can't even stay on topic, because you have an evil heart. And when I'm off topic, I'm often chasing Phat's evil heart.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
You're not that stupid. You know nobody believes Star Wars or Star Trek. In fact, we put them on the same level with Jesus and Noah.
Do you want to know what your counterpart fables are to our "Bronze Age Myths? Try Star Wars. Try Star Trek. Phat writes:
Wrong again. Nobody wants to replace Jesus with Luke Skywalker. Do you think at all? You all naively hope and expect that humans will ditch old time mythos and adopt brand new godless and hopeful mythos. We want to rid mankind of belief in ALL myths.
Phat writes:
You have no argument. There is no "new mythos". See above. My argument is that for all realistic purposes, the new "mythos" is no better than the old "mythos".Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
You should read the Bible. Almost everything you believe about "Satan" comes from Milton. Satan sure fooled you! Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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riVeRraT writes:
That must be why Elon Musk took the job making the health rules for the entire world. The rest who are probably in charge of say, health rules for the entire world, are mostly motivated by money. Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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riVeRraT writes:
I remember when I started the Punic Wars. I wanted Hannibal to bring the elephants closer so I could see them better. ... you are the reason wars happen... Good times.... I should have called AZPaul3. He likes elephants too. But the telephone hadn't been invented yet.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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riVeRraT writes:
That doesn't make any sense to me. P is a function, isn't it? The value of P depends on E. P may be 0 for some value(s) of E, whether E is zero or not. My initial thought is if P(E)=0 both P and E would have to be zero. Compare f(x) = mx + b. When x = 0, f(x) is only 0 if b is also 0. It's forty-some years since i took a math class, so....
riVeRraT writes:
What does anything you have said have to do with learning not to be offended? It looks to me like you rose from the dead and started this thread just to be offended. What does this have to do with learning how not to be offended?Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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riVeRraT writes:
They CAN be synonyms. And synonyms CAN mean exactly the same OR they can mean subtly different. ringo writes:
They are synonyms Confidence is not the same as either trust or faith. I look at synonyms as a warning sign. If there is a synonym for a word, be careful which one you use.
riVeRraT writes:
Not really. I believe you exist and I would trust you to fix my HVAC but I have no confidence in your thoughts outside your profession. Three different meanings.
I have faith in God, and on our money it says "In God We Trust", same thing. riVeRraT writes:
But not MY point.
It's nit picking and goes beyond my point. riVeRraT writes:
Neither can God. Go ahead, prove me wrong with prayer. ringo writes:
Not by talking to it. Dynamite can actually move mountains. riVeRraT writes:
Yes. Love is what you DO. Do you have some kind of absolute definition for love? Staying up all night with a sick child is love. Beating a child is not love. Saying, "I love you," is not love. Jesus defined it pretty clearly in Matthew 25.
riVeRraT writes:
I don't see why anybody would be offended by being loved. Or by NOT being loved, for that matter.
Isn't this concept at the core of this topic, and why you can never "not offend anyone"? riVeRraT writes:
See above.
Love for your children is 100% subjective. riVeRraT writes:
I don't believe in demons.
The problem is the demonization of me... riVeRraT writes:
I hesitate to mention the Talmud, Midrash, etc. since jar is back and he knows a lot more about it than I do... but Jewish thought emphasizes two (or more) sides to every issue. ... to make anything I say wrong... The Bible does too, to a lesser extent:
quote:So yes, I do point out the other side. riVeRraT writes:
Percy handles my reins. But believe it or not, I do censor myself once in a while. ... and to give free rein to say anything you want to me.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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ringo Member (Idle past 437 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
That makes no sense. Except for the needs of biologicals, oxygen and nitrogen are roughly equivalent (in an Ideal Gas Law kind of way). My only comment is that saying that Science is my superior is like saying Oxygen is my superior and Nitrogen isn't. Science has no equivalentCome all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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