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Topic: Did Jesus Declare All Food Clean?
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 29 of 88 (847069)
01-17-2019 10:49 AM
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Reply to: Message 28 by candle2
01-17-2019 9:22 AM
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Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
candle2 writes: What the world thinks about God's dietary laws is worthless. God's word is the only thing that matters. He has ordered us (His followers) not to eat contaminated/polluted meat.
We know far more about contaminated meat today than the writers of the Bible ever knew. Following arbitrary species-by-species rules is just silly.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 31 of 88 (847072)
01-17-2019 12:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 30 by candle2
01-17-2019 12:17 PM
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Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
candle2 writes: At least you admit that the meat mentioned is contaminated.
I only agree that meat can be contaminated. I certainly do not agree that all pork or all shellfish was contaminated at any time in history.
candle2 writes: When one eats contaminated .meat he is eating everything that that animal has eaten.
There's a whole food chain, you know. A whole string of creatures have eaten each other without harm. Most of the people in the world eat pork and shellfish without harm.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 37 of 88 (847110)
01-18-2019 10:39 AM
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Reply to: Message 35 by AZPaul3
01-18-2019 6:51 AM
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Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
AZPaul3 writes: He/she/it did get into scavengers, bottom feeders, garbage eaters, etc. as reasons....
Because recycling is a bad thing.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 44 of 88 (847196)
01-19-2019 11:11 AM
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Reply to: Message 42 by candle2
01-19-2019 9:09 AM
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Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
candle2 writes: Yet, this same Jesus (Mark 5) allowed 2000 head of swine to plunge into the sea. If swine was fit for human consumptionn, He would not have wasted the meat.
That's a bad example. The swine plunged into the sea because they were possessed by devils. That doesn't mean that all swine are unfit to eat.
candle2 writes: No one but you, yourself, has said that God poisoned (contaminated, polluted) meat.
In this example, that's pretty much exactly what happened. Jesus was the one who made the swine unfit to eat. Edited by ringo, : Added second paragraph.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 58 of 88 (847291)
01-20-2019 1:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 51 by candle2
01-19-2019 6:43 PM
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Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
candle2 writes: Your only defense is to deny, deny, deny. I am now used to evolutionists doing this.
if you're so full of answers, you have posts in this thread that you haven't responded to.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 60 of 88 (847296)
01-20-2019 4:06 PM
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Reply to: Message 59 by candle2
01-20-2019 3:37 PM
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Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
candle2 writes: I don't have time to read every post. And, it's not only the time, it one finger typing on this phone and using reading glasses for the first time.
I'm on my phone too half of the time and I have to take off my glasses to see it.  I'm just saying, if you're going to claim to know something, you'd better be able to put up.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 64 of 88 (847331)
01-21-2019 10:54 AM
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Reply to: Message 61 by candle2
01-21-2019 9:25 AM
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Re: What Would Jesus Declare In 2019?
candle2 writes: I"ve made an excellent case, based on the Bible and common sense.
Yes, you're a legend in your own mind.
candle2 writes: I have seen nothing to alter my views in the least.
Nobody is trying to alter your views. We're just pointing out how your views are wrong. Your fundamental error is ignoring the fact that "unclean" meats are not always contaminated and "clean" meats can also be contaminated. We have government agencies to inspect meat to separate the contaminated from the uncontaminated.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 74 of 88 (847402)
01-22-2019 10:56 AM
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Reply to: Message 70 by Phat
01-21-2019 6:02 PM
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Re: A Cult Is A Cult
Phat writes: One thing I do notice is the fervor with which some people have to spread Christianity and an equal fervor to discredit it.
It's not necessarily a fervor to discredit Christianity. It's more a fervor to reveal lies and misinformation, including Christian lies and misinformation.
Phat writes: No ordinary myth had such high pitched battles between human factions.
Maybe you've never heard of communism? Or fascism? Untold billions were spent to destroy and defend them. Untold lives were lost. Comparatively, the "battle" between Christianity and reality is a schoolyard spat.
Phat writes: I see the spiritual war in everyday life.
No you don't. It's just part of your preferred fantasy.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 79 of 88 (847468)
01-23-2019 11:04 AM
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Reply to: Message 75 by Phat
01-22-2019 2:46 PM
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Re: A Cult Is A Cult
Phat writes: You cant reframe subjective experience for others...
Sure I can. I can frame it with reality.
Phat writes: ...nor can you predict the results of their belief...
Sure I can. I can predict, with confidence that Faith will not be raptured any time soon.
Phat writes: But jusy because it works for you to say that God is fiction does not mean that your conclusion becomes global reality.
It has nothing to do with what "works for me". Reality is what it is. You don't get to have your own private reality. And even if there is a real God somewhere, your God IS fiction.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 81 of 88 (847474)
01-23-2019 12:01 PM
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Reply to: Message 80 by Phat
01-23-2019 11:52 AM
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Re: A Cult Is A Cult
Phat writes: I just get offended when you call it fantasy. On my mind you have no business there.
It is my business to tell you that 2+2=4 and if you claim that 2+2=5 it is my business to tell you that that is fantasy.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 85 of 88 (847536)
01-23-2019 3:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 84 by Phat
01-23-2019 3:29 PM
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Re: A Cult Is A Cult
Phat writes: Your error is in assuming that existence of God can be disproven mathematically.
I didn't do that. I made a distinction between reality and fantasy. Unless you can prove that God is a reality - and you can't - He is a fantasy.
And our geese will blot out the sun.
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