Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
2 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,742 Year: 3,999/9,624 Month: 870/974 Week: 197/286 Day: 4/109 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   The Right Side of the News
ringo
Member (Idle past 437 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 586 of 5796 (847550)
01-23-2019 3:49 PM
Reply to: Message 583 by Faith
01-23-2019 3:43 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
Faith writes:
THE KIDS DID NOT DO ANYTHING...
We've seen what the kids did.
Faith writes:
THE INDIAN'S WHOLE SPEECH TO THE MEDIA WAS A PACK OF LIES.
Name one.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 583 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 3:43 PM Faith has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 587 of 5796 (847554)
01-23-2019 3:59 PM


here's the kid being interviewed:

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


Message 588 of 5796 (847555)
01-23-2019 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 581 by JonF
01-23-2019 3:42 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
I can't find a complete video of what the Indian guy said. It was all over the news earlier, the most crazy piece of fiction possible but everybody believed it at first. I'll come back to look again later.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 581 by JonF, posted 01-23-2019 3:42 PM JonF has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 590 by JonF, posted 01-23-2019 4:19 PM Faith has not replied

  
dwise1
Member
Posts: 5949
Joined: 05-02-2006
Member Rating: 5.3


(1)
Message 589 of 5796 (847557)
01-23-2019 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 560 by Faith
01-23-2019 2:15 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
I'm not going to look at that link. With all the media lies against these poor kids already I know that one is just another and you are just another creep who wants to find fault with the innocent ones.
No, of course you won't look at it! It is actual phone video taken of your good Catholic "innocent boys" catcalling these girls and at the end it sounds like one of them yelled "slut". Such "pure, innocent boys"!
No, instead you will cleave to your Fake News Network.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 560 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 2:15 PM Faith has not replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 193 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 590 of 5796 (847558)
01-23-2019 4:19 PM
Reply to: Message 588 by Faith
01-23-2019 4:05 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
Edited by Admin, : Rerender message to use updated software to use https for YouTube.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 588 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 4:05 PM Faith has not replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9196
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 3.3


Message 591 of 5796 (847559)
01-23-2019 4:41 PM
Reply to: Message 561 by Faith
01-23-2019 2:16 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
He didn't write it. It was composed by a right wing pr firm.
ABE
In case Faith accuses me of lying.
Covington Teen Nick Sandmann's Statement Crafted By Republican PR Firm Founded By Former Mitch McConnell Aide - Inquisitr
Edited by Theodoric, : Added news story

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 561 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 2:16 PM Faith has not replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9196
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 3.3


(1)
Message 592 of 5796 (847564)
01-23-2019 5:15 PM
Reply to: Message 550 by Faith
01-23-2019 1:04 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
Does anyone else find it hilarious that Faith is defending catholics? I guess the enemy of my enemy.
Oh, where to begin, where to begin?
fake faith writes:
The fact that they were just standing there minding their own business waiting for their bus doesn't matter to you.
Lie. The facts are clear.
fake faith writes:
The fact that the old Indian guy made up a pretty complicated accusation of them out of whole cloth that is contradicted by the video doesn't matter at all to you.
Lie. The facts are clear.
fake faith writes:
I guess it's fine with you that their school had to be closed because of all the death threats against them brought about by the lying fascist Leftist propaganda?
Go to hell. Don't you dare suppose to know how I feel on this. Just because this is something many on the right would be gleeful about if the situation was turned around, do not put me in their vile category. Go to hell.
And what do you know about what they've been taught about Native Americans?
Their behavior shows a lack of appreciation of historical facts.
fake faith writes:
These days every history but western civilization is emphasized in every school in the country.
Now this is something you actually know nothing about isn't it. You just made that up. Present some evidence or retract.
fake faith writes:
You're a good example of how the Left just loves lies and hates people for symbolic reasons and couldn't care less about the truth.
Funny from a person that has never presented a fact to support an argument.
They aren't even anywhere near rich, they've got working class parents.
I don't know any working class parents that can afford $8-10k to send their kids to high school. You might wan to rethink that argument.
Sean Hannity? You kill me. He is worth over $220 million. That qualifies as a entitled, rich white guy. His behaviors give proof to the entitled.
Tucker Carlson? His stepmother is an heir to the Swanson foods fortune. I think Tucker did ok as a kid. He certainly is an entitled, rich, white guy.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 550 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 1:04 PM Faith has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 600 by Phat, posted 01-23-2019 10:05 PM Theodoric has replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9196
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 3.3


Message 593 of 5796 (847565)
01-23-2019 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 570 by Faith
01-23-2019 2:50 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
lying old Indian
Why are you such a racist POS?

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 570 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 2:50 PM Faith has not replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9196
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 3.3


Message 594 of 5796 (847566)
01-23-2019 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 583 by Faith
01-23-2019 3:43 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
Classic Faith. When backed into a corner, instead of acknowledging her mistakes types on caps and doubles down. A sign that she knows she is wrong.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 583 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 3:43 PM Faith has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 603 by Faith, posted 01-24-2019 3:23 AM Theodoric has not replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 193 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 595 of 5796 (847568)
01-23-2019 5:43 PM


Josh Marshall nails it again. Nick Sandmann and the Poverty of Social Media Storms - TPM – Talking Points Memo:
quote:
Sandmann’s interview is of a piece with the statement he put out earlier in the week with the assistance (or probably actually written by) a GOP PR firm hired by his parents. Sandmann says he was simply trying to defuse the situation and wanted to listen to Phillips.
As someone who was once a high school boy, I can say with some confidence that that is utter bullshit. If you set aside the political and racial dynamics of the encounter, the crowd dynamics are quite clear. Sandmann isn’t trying to defuse the situation. He’s acting like a tough guy and signaling his disdain for Phillips and quite clearly playing to his classmates. He’s feeding off their hoops and hollers and vice versa. The smirk is partly the property of all young men. But in Sandmann’s case it’s also about the confidence of privilege and power in the face of the outlandishness of Phillip’s self-presentation.

Replies to this message:
 Message 596 by Theodoric, posted 01-23-2019 6:27 PM JonF has not replied
 Message 599 by Phat, posted 01-23-2019 9:19 PM JonF has not replied

  
Theodoric
Member
Posts: 9196
From: Northwest, WI, USA
Joined: 08-15-2005
Member Rating: 3.3


(1)
Message 596 of 5796 (847573)
01-23-2019 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 595 by JonF
01-23-2019 5:43 PM


I do like Josh. One of my favorite political commentators. He is smart and well spoken. He knows his stuff before he writes it. Something a lot of commentators on the right may want to emulate

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 595 by JonF, posted 01-23-2019 5:43 PM JonF has not replied

  
JonF
Member (Idle past 193 days)
Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


(1)
Message 597 of 5796 (847575)
01-23-2019 6:48 PM


quote:
Me: Remember that kid the other day who was smiling at the Native American drumming?
My 11-year old: He wasn't smiling. That was smug. That wasn't a smile.
Apparently 11-year olds are more discerning than much of the media.
The Hoarse Whisperer tweet

Replies to this message:
 Message 598 by Faith, posted 01-23-2019 8:09 PM JonF has not replied

  
Faith 
Suspended Member (Idle past 1470 days)
Posts: 35298
From: Nevada, USA
Joined: 10-06-2001


(1)
Message 598 of 5796 (847580)
01-23-2019 8:09 PM
Reply to: Message 597 by JonF
01-23-2019 6:48 PM


It looked like a smirk to me too. I believed the whole media lie at first. An old Indian claiming he felt threatened, hard to ignore. Turns out the whole story was wrong. The kids were doing nothing. The Indian said the kids surrounded him and he was frightened. Fact is he walked into their group right up to the kid that seems to be smirking, and continued drumming inches from the kid's face. Given the actual circumstances that came out later I take the boy's word for it that he meant to be smiling to try to defuse any antagonism. He didn't do anything but stand there and let the Indian drum in his face.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 597 by JonF, posted 01-23-2019 6:48 PM JonF has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 601 by Dr Adequate, posted 01-23-2019 10:58 PM Faith has replied
 Message 611 by ringo, posted 01-24-2019 10:48 AM Faith has not replied

  
Phat
Member
Posts: 18332
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003
Member Rating: 1.0


(1)
Message 599 of 5796 (847582)
01-23-2019 9:19 PM
Reply to: Message 595 by JonF
01-23-2019 5:43 PM


Make The Media Great Again
I'll agree that the kids were being typical teenagers...and perhaps unknowingly entitled too...but the Indian was a professional activist as were the black Israeli group. There are no victims here except the gullible public buying the media frenzy. Its a non-story whipped up into a story by an overzealous media.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

This message is a reply to:
 Message 595 by JonF, posted 01-23-2019 5:43 PM JonF has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 612 by ringo, posted 01-24-2019 10:50 AM Phat has seen this message but not replied

  
Phat
Member
Posts: 18332
From: Denver,Colorado USA
Joined: 12-30-2003
Member Rating: 1.0


Message 600 of 5796 (847584)
01-23-2019 10:05 PM
Reply to: Message 592 by Theodoric
01-23-2019 5:15 PM


Re: Dangerous media smears of innocent boys
My viewpoint is gathered from the videos watched. I was not there so do not know the whole story. In my opinion:
The Black Israeli group started the whole mess with some pretty racist taunts.
The Indian was a professional activist yet seemed relatively peaceful. He sought a media spotlight but was relatively harmless.
The Catholic high Schoolers were a bit rowdy, but did nothing any 16 uear olds wouldn't do....they were in front of their peers and a media spotlight and came off pretty good considering. So what if they were "entitled"? That's not their fault. Nor should the minorities be the only victims here...if at all.
As I said before, this was a nonevent whipped into an event by an overzealous media. The only victims here are a gullible public...of all persuasions and ideologies.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain "
~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo
Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.
~Stile

This message is a reply to:
 Message 592 by Theodoric, posted 01-23-2019 5:15 PM Theodoric has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 602 by Theodoric, posted 01-23-2019 11:55 PM Phat has replied
 Message 613 by ringo, posted 01-24-2019 10:55 AM Phat has seen this message but not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024