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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Fox News reports that its latest poll shows that most voters blame President Trump for the government shutdown. The poll forms the backdrop for this panel discussion, but few details about the poll are provided:
Although Fox News didn't run a story summarizing the poll, I did find a link to the detailed poll results in one of their stories on another topic. The polls can be found at Latest Fox News Poll. A few of the findings:
There's also ratings for Congress, which at 18% are down recently but higher than a year ago and before. 50% believe the country is worse off today than a year ago, but 34% believe their families are better off. The number of people who believe the economy will be stronger a year from now has dropped nearly 20 percentage points over the past two years, from 55% to 37%. The poll did have one ringer of a question:
The left does not believe we should move away from capitalism, but they do believe that capitalism's more unrestrained qualities require regulation for such things as the environment, fiscal responsibility (e.g., bank reserves), and the tax code (e.g., people paying their fair share). They also think a country as wealthy as ours should insure access to affordable healthcare and a fair shake economically. In other words, by the way it is phrased the question implies things that are not true --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8
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Faith writes: JonF writes: Jacob Wohl is "a former hedge fund manager and pro-Trump conspiracy theorist, [who] has been connected with the alleged sexual assault claims against special counsel Robert Mueller" (Jacob Wohl: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know | Heavy.com). Trump has retweeted him. Here's a recent tweet:
Faith, can you spot the mammoth lie? I can't even read the thing, sorry. Can you read this:
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
The Los Angeles Times reports U.S. officials to start pushing asylum seekers back across the border:
quote: --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
This opinion piece from the Washington Post, Trump has survived so many mistakes ” but the shutdown is his biggest blunder yet enumerates a few of the negative effects of Trump's government shutdown. All the links work for anyone who wants evidence that these are all true:
quote: --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Those filthy lying Fox libs!
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Addendum :the zero growth possibility was predicated on Trump’s shutdown lasting a quarter. If that happens zero growth will be one of the smaller problems. IMHO, of course.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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The problem is that if their actual behavior contradicts your fantasies then you reject the facts. Not at all. I claim that their behavior was misconstrued.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thanks for making it readable. But my answer is:
I don't know. Not interested enough in trying to figure it out either. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Do you like Pink Floyd?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What are they going to sue them for? Did you even read the statement? Please explain to me what in the statement is libelous. Other Catholic leaders including school administrators, said more direct things than this bishop but there may even be libelous remarks in this statement since he completely misrepresents, for instance, the meaning of wearing a MAGA hat: quote:
“I am ashamed that the actions of Kentucky Catholic high school students have become a contradiction of the very reverence for human life that the march is supposed to manifest. I'd consider suing him just for that accusation, but it gets worse as he elaborates it.
As such, I believe that U.S. Catholics must take a look at how our support of the fundamental right to life has become separated from the even more basic truth of the dignity of each human person,” ...it astonishes me that any students participating in a pro-life activity on behalf of their school and their Catholic faith could be wearing apparel sporting the slogans of a president who denigrates the lives of immigrants, refugees and people from countries that he describes with indecent words and haphazardly endangers with life-threatening policies.” I'd sue him down to his priestly robe for this slanderous statement. It's first of all the usual Marxist-Leftist PC lie against Trump for which I certainly wish he could sue the Democrats down to the poverty they want to impose on all the rest of us, but at least the boys should sue over the accusation that the MAGA hat means what this Leftist says it means. Those who wear the hat mean no such thing by it and he doesn't get to define what it means for them. That's just political intimidation and somebody needs to put a stop to this insanity. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
No.
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JonF Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Yeah, heaven forbid you acknowledge right-wing lies.
She was born in the US, so per the 14th amendment and a plethora of judicial decisions she is an eligible natural-born citizen. He implies she would be eligible if she were a naturalized citizen. Naturalized citizens are not eligible to be President. Where she was raised is irrelevant. But lying is cool as long as you're a Republican, right? Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9146 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3 |
So you want people to be able to sue for opinions they disagree with?
I don't think the word libel means what you think it means. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Taq Member Posts: 10045 Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Faith writes: Not at all. I claim that their behavior was misconstrued. That's exactly what I am talking about.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1046 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
Faith writes: I really don't know what point you are trying to make here. I was trying to make the point Phat made a bit later:
Phat writes: Its a non-story whipped up into a story by an overzealous media. except I wouldn't say 'overzealous', I'd say 'venal'. This is, as Phat says, a total non-event. I could not give two short shits who was in the right or the wrong here; since I can't see how it matters. What happened here is that some children and an old man had a disagreement. Maybe some or all of the parties involved behaved inappropriately - who knows, and who the fuck cares? No one got hurt. It's not international news; it's not national news; it's not even local news. It's something that happened somewhere. And yet, it's full of button-pushing, buzzword triggers for people on various sides of the political spectrum, and this is why the media seized on it. It's a petty way to generate revenue without wasting time or expense on journalism. There's no work involved into making it a story; you just chuck it out there, like throwing red meat to a bunch of wolves, and watch the internet explode while people rant and foam in pathetic partisan outrage. Edited by caffeine, : No reason given. Edited by caffeine, : Somehow there was a word missing in the middle there
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