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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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Nope, I am a member of the reality-based community. And I support my claims.
How many confirmed voter fraud cases have there been, listed by party? What percentage of Obama's judicial appointments were blocked between the Republican takeover of the Senate and gett rid of the filibuster? What percentage of Trump's or Bush's appointee were blocked? How many widely supported causes has the Freedom Caucus blocked? How many by Democrats? Of course you have no clue and don't want one, because you live in you bubble of lies and never look outside.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Such facts are secondary in a reasonable person's mind to the fact that the Left is pushing an evil totalitarian ideology and the Right is trying to save the soul of America.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Faith writes:
We already knew that facts were unimportant to you. Such facts are secondary in a reasonable person's mind to the fact that the Left is pushing an evil totalitarian ideology and the Right is trying to save the soul of America.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Your tirade makes no sense.
Faith writes: But desperation in rural regions, whose concerns had perhaps not been given sufficient consideration, gave rise to the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus and sent uncompromising ideologues to Congress who were so tightly wrapped in their righteousness that they embraced undemocratic tactics to further their ends, such as their manipulation of the judiciary by holding up Obama appointments, including one to the Supreme Court. To my mind that statement shows an abysmal lack of understanding of what brought about the Tea Party and the election of Trump both. I wasn't trying to be detailed. Are you saying that just as a rough characterization that desperation in rural regions didn't give rise to the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus? If not then what did?
To call them "uncompromising ideologues"... I called the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus uncompromising ideologues, not Trump. Trump's just a moron.
...when such a term really describe the Left is utterly bizarre to me. I only called a small group of Republicans (maybe around 50 at present) uncompromising ideologues, not the entire right. This sort of mindless, "Oh yeah? Well so are you," isn't really helpful.
And interfering with judiciary appointees is even more aggressive from the Left. That's not even possible. When the Democrats controlled the Senate under Obama, what sense would it make for them to interfere with judiciary appointments? And how could they interfere after the Republicans controlled the Senate? You're making no sense. But the Republicans did strongly interfere with judiciary appointments during the last two years of the Obama administration, refusing to consider appointments, including one to the Supreme Court.
The politicization of the judiciary is the root problem and that's the Left's doing. Can you please describe for us how Republicans refusing to consider judiciary appointments of a Democratic administration, then later filling those empty positions with conservative judges under a Republican administration, constitutes the left politicizing the judiciary?
You inhabit some other planet, with all the Lefties here. Your love of labels and name calling echos your hero Trump (to him you'd be Flakey Faith), but though I am not left politically I would agree that I inhabit the same planet as those on both the left and right. Trump believers, a different breed, seem to inhabit a planet all their own.
The chasm seems to be unbridgeable. Oh, I don't know. You could try a leap of rationality and join the rest of us in the real world inhabited by people of all stripes. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Grammar.
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Faith writes: ...he [Trump] may exaggerate the achievements of his administration, but I'm not even sure he's doing that,... You keep doing this over and over and over again, saying that Trump hasn't done something that he was caught on video absolutely doing. Here he is at the United Nations saying that in two years his administration has accomplished more than almost any other administration in the nation's history. This video is already positioned at precisely the right point:
It drew laughter. Do you even watch the Trump videos we post? --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Faith writes: Such facts are secondary in a reasonable person's mind to the fact that the Left is pushing an evil totalitarian ideology and the Right is trying to save the soul of America. All you're doing is making perfectly clear that facts don't interest you. What seems to interest you most is repeating without evidence or support fabricated accusations and politically biased claims. If you ever decide to engage with the facts then I think everyone here is more than ready to discuss them with you. --Percy
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JonF Member (Idle past 196 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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I.e. you know your claims are BS but it doesn't matter. Reality doesn't matter. All that matters is your ignorant hateful paranoid delusions.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2290 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.9
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Perhaps he knows a lot more than you are willing to grant.
he might, but "more than anybody in the world?", sure Jan. And how would he learn these things? We just saw him argue with his intelligence chiefs, people he appointed, claiming that they don't know what they're talking about. How does he know more than the heads of intelligence agencies? Edited by Admin, : Fix text. "don't what" => "don't know what"It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Percy Member Posts: 22502 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
An article in today's Politico, Congress tunes out Trump’s border wall threats, is a reminder that it is time once again to say that it is wrong for Congress to negotiate a border security deal under threat of government shutdown or declaration of a national emergency.
Congress should tell Trump, "No negotiations until you stop with the threats. No negotiations while you're threatening the country." If the Republicans won't join the Democrats in this then the Democrats should do it alone. Congress should tell Trump that when he is ready to join in the normal legislative process then they are ready to work with him. By the way, in case there's any doubt that the wall would be built by the Rio Grande and blocking us off from the river (something Trump won't tell his constituents), here's a quote from the article:
quote: The reason they're visiting Texas is because the Rio Grande is mostly unwalled. No wall is needed there because a river is already a physical barrier. --Percy
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Congress should tell Trump that when he is ready to join in the normal legislative process then they are ready to work with him. So you want them to lie to him.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I wasn't trying to be detailed. Are you saying that just as a rough characterization that desperation in rural regions didn't give rise to the Tea Party and the Freedom Caucus? If not then what did? Perhaps you didn't mean it as I took it but the emphasis on the rural regions makes it sound like the Tea Party was just a regional interest that for some reason the locals were desperate about. But the Tea Party was a groundswell of anger at the way Obama and his party were, and are still, destroying America, our economy, our standing in the world, our freedoms, the true meaning of our Constitution, all of it. Meaning ultimately doing away with the mindset of the original "moral and religious people" that John Adams said was the only kind of people who could make proper use of the new kind of government, that "it is wholly inadequate for any other." The hopeful atheists here can recreate America in their own image and even call it "America" and even pretend it is the same America because of their twisting of the meanings of the Constitution, but it will be a gigantic sham. ALL THAT is what a lot of us felt the Tea Party was really about although their stated objectives were much more modest, and it included lots of people from the blue areas too. I think we need a new movement that overtly espounses everything I've described here since the Tea Party only barely touched on those things. Yes I know who you called uncompromising ideologues but they are not ideologues if you understand that term properly. The Left is the ideologues, with their Marx-inspired, yes Marx inspired, yes yes yes, anti-American thinking, that has been growing through the universities and the media since the sixties. Cultural Marxism is the major weapon being used to bring us down. \\ There is always a big political kerfuffle over judicial appointees for the very reason that they ARE politicized and the Left has appointed some far Left doozies in the last few decades, but the Democrats' attack on Kavanaugh must have been the lowest level ever sunk to in all that. As for the unbridgeable chasm is apparently way deeper than you have any idea. Just your saying that my short answer to you was a "tirade" has me shaking my head. Tirade? Really? It was a simple statement of my disagreements. Sheesh. Since just about everything you say is the same thing rthe Left says o the social issues at least, I see no way you are not a Leftist in reality. What, maybe you have a single conservative idea tucked in there somewhere? Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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14174dm Member (Idle past 1137 days) Posts: 161 From: Cincinnati OH Joined: |
It's the Left that does the voter fraud. Show evidence of enough voter fraud by Democrats to skew an election. So you are fine with the Republican push to gerrymander to protect Republican politicians. Gerrymander instead of convince voters of Republican ideals or adjust Republican actions and programs to match the desires of the majority of voters. Yes I know that Democrats also gerrymander but Faith considers Leftists the only problem in elections. Sorry can't find instructions on putting in short links with summary titles https://www.washingtonpost.com/...da-ff7faa680710_story.html "This week a federal court struck down North Carolina's congressional maps after the state's Republicans conceded that they drew the maps to disenfranchise Democratic voters." Because Republicans are divinely inspired to always be right so any human sense of fairness is useless. Texas officials launched voter purge with big splash, little accuracy "The state had been working on the analysis since March 2018, but it took the elections officials less than a day to spot glaring errors. By Tuesday, the original list of 95,000 had been cut to roughly 75,000 names." After 9 months work by partisan Republicans, the working staff of elections boards protected the right to vote for 20% in three business days. How many more do the Republican fanatics want to unjustly rob of the right to vote? "All 366 registered voters on the list sent to McLennan County election officials, for example, were incorrectly flagged and had already proven citizenship, the Waco Tribune-Herald reported." "Florida sought to purge noncitizens from the voter rolls in 2012 and initially flagged 180,000 people. The number soon shrank to 2,600 and ultimately just 85 voters were taken off the rolls, according to the Tampa Bay Times." Republicans want to keep people from voting using the weakest excuses. I would be the poster boy of the stereotypical Republican but the Party has no morals left. All that matters now is staying in power regardless of morals, laws, or common sense.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's frustrating that someone doesn't go after this stuff and prove it so no, I can't prove it. But there were many precincts across the country, including in my own state, where somehow ballots kept magically appearing well after the polls were closed, even truckloads of them, that turned a Republican victory into a Democratic victory. These ballots were accepted as valid despite passed deadlines and all sorts of other red flags, and miracle of miracles, they ALL overturned a Republican victory established at poll closing time, by whatever necessary thousands of votes were needed to make the Leftist the winner in the end. I think there were one or two cases where they weren't able to come up with enough fake Democrat ballots even with all these shenanigans so the Republican remained the winner by a tiny margin.
Sure looks like voter fraud to me, but of course you will want something more solid and won't even admit that it's awfully suspicious. And I can't prove the many rumors of illegal aliens voting either. That many dead people voted for Democrats in other elections, and many people voted more than once at different precincts, are often mentioned too, and I don't know why this stuff isn't prosecuted. You don't need to bother "proving" me wrong, it will all be bogus statistics anyway if in fact this sort of voter fraud did occur. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: But it’s not that people don’t go after it. It’s that they almost never find any evidence and that when they do it’s almost always fraud from the Right, not the Left. And in fact most of the squawking about voter fraud is motivated by the desire to prevent people voting. It’s almost got to the point where “voter fraud” means poor people voting - especially if they’re Black or Hispanic (at least when it comes from Republicans). Of course there was also the need to “prove” that Trump won the popular vote (there’s Trump’s need for approval right there).
quote: Ooh! I know! It’s because the rumours are all false!
quote: Rejecting inconvenient evidence out of hand is typical of you, so that won’t surprise anyone.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Leftist propaganda.
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