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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
The only sensible compromise is to say thatTrump can have money for his silly wall if the Mexican Government pays it. That’s what Trump promised. If he can’t get that, then maybe the decisions on how to implement border security should be based on more sensible considerations. A bit ago, I heard that the support by "the people" for building the wall is inversely proportional to the distance they live from the Mexico border. In other words, the closer you live to "the problem", the less you like of the wall idea. I've also heard that more limited wall building projects passed during the George Bush 2 era are still tied up in court. Even if Trump got his 5+ billion for the wall, it would be a minimum of a LONG time before much of anything actually gets built. Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
In California all registered voters are assigned a polling place to go to. There, they have two computer printouts: one sorts all registered voters belonging to that polling place by street name and number, the other is a log book of registered voters which we sign. You tell them your street name, then they ask for your address number, and then finally your name. If they find you listed, they line out your name and refer you to the next person who has opened the log book to your name where you sign the log book and write in your address. Seems to be a pretty good method of voter ID - You need to know your address. It's been a number of years since I did the voting judge thing in our tiny local precinct - Something like 120 voters is typical. I think Minnesota has also has both of those books, but IIRC, only the second one is normally used in the voting procedure.
A third person prints out a receipt with a number which I assume is unique to you, the second person writes that number in the log book next to your name, and you use that number to log into the voting machine. Our voting machines are electronic, at the end they have you verify your selections, and your selections are printed out on paper inside the machine (you can see what it's printing). Our local system uses four election judges. The first is the registration judge - Minnesota has available instant registration at the same time as you vote. To register, the voter must have an ID and some piece of documentation that s/he is a precinct resident (which might also be the ID). An alternative is to have another already registered voter vouch for you, that you are indeed valid to be a voter at the site. The registration judge usually does a lot of sitting around doing nothing. The second is the person who signs you in in the registered voter roll book, adding you to that book if you are a newly registered. No ID procedure in involved - Just give your name. The third gives you a (numbered?) little piece of paper that you put into a slotted metal box at the fourth judge. The fourth judge gives you the paper ballot. At least at our location, there is no electronic voting, although there is a machine available to help you do your ballot. When you complete your ballot, you fold it and stuff it into another locked slotted box.
Now, that all requires you to have already been registered, so voter ID would do nothing to stop additional unregistered votes to enter the system. In addition, everybody gets marked off when they vote, so there's no voting multiple times. And if somebody had voted posing as you then you come in to vote, then that would immediately raise a red flag, in which case I assume that that unique number in the log book could be used to find and eliminate that false ballot. Or in the case of an impostor trying to vote after you had voted, then the culprit would be exposed on the spot. In either case, I assume that the second person would need to produce some kind of ID. In Minnesota there is no identification on the ballot that connects to the ID of what voter did that ballot. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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As an aside I watched the news conference where Pelosi appeared later. Does Nancy have a medical problem I'm not aware of? She seemed to be very drunk. Pelosi Video Manipulated To Make Her Sound Drunk On Social Media Video Of Pelosi Manipulated To Make Her Sound Drunk Spreads Through Social Media
quote: More at source, including copy of video in question. TPM has it filed under "real fake news". Better watch your videos from more reliable sources. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Mention video is at source page.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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hyro writes: I'm not Alt-Right Message 2439 If it quacks like a duck and it walks like a duck. He seems to think that since he has criticized Trump he can not be alt-right. I guess maybe he doesn't identify as alt-right but he supports a lot if not most of their positions. There may be nuance to be considered in message 2439, but I feel considerable but not total agreement with what was said there. My impression is that Hyroglyphx has become considerably less right wing than he was a few years ago. I certainly would NOT file him under "alt-right". MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn’t know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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That's a great solution. The government shouldn't be funding abortions with money paid in by people who object to abortion as killing an innocent human being, but citizens should be free to donate to such killings to their heart's content. Should that same reasoning apply to funding the U.S. military/industrial complex? Iran shot down a $200M drone. Apparently that was a spy drone, not a weaponized drone, but isn't there a better way to spend $200M? I object to the government funding so many of these ultra-expensive military toys. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn’t know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Even if Donald was getting wonderful results as president, his basic personality is still "epic jerk" (to use non-profane terminology).
I think that the "incompetent boob" charge, in a sane world, should be enough to get him impeached and removed from office. And sheesh, Faith - If DT proclaimed water to not be wet, you'd be saying that "water is wet" is FAKE NEWS. Or something like that. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Call it a typo fix.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
...The grounds for impeachment are primarily divorced from statues of the criminal code... Enough members of the House and Senate convinced that Trump is an incompetent boob and is unsuitable to be President, willing to vote in response to that, is enough to impeach, convict, and remove him from office. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. -- Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Faith writes: "Amoral con man" and "incompetent boob" are the level of judgment on which Trump has been impeached according to Moose, which apparently in his mind among others rises to "high crimes and misdemeanors." See Message 3957 I think Moose meant that Trump's conman-style incompetence (and he left out paranoia and narcissism and a lot of others) is what led to his committing impeachable acts (against the advice of many aides), not that being an incompetent conman was an impeachable offense. I don't recalll using "Amoral con man" (which Trump is), and I checked and certainly didn't in my most recent message where I did use "incompetent boob". While heavy incompetence certainly can lead to committing all kinds of wrongs, the point I was making is that if in the House's and Senate's judgement, Trump is incompetent, they could file that under "high crimes and misdemeanors". I guess Faith would say that his not having a reasonable ability to fulfill the requirements of being President is not a valid reason for Trump being removed from the Presidency. Hell, Trump could spend the all of his waking hours sitting in a corner doing nothing but drooling on himself, and Faith would still think there is no valid reason to remove him from the Presidency. Trump has risen well above his level of incompetency (re: "Peter principle"), and should be fired. And the House and the Senate are ones having the authority and power to fire him. OSLT. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : "Drool" or "drooling", that is the question.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
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quote: quote:quote: More and links at source. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. - Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes" - Ronald Reagan (1984) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose |
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Interesting factoid: on Meet the Press today they revealed polling showing that the seriousness with which people are treating the virus threat differs widely between Democrats and Republicans, even among older people, the most vulnerable group. Republicans are much more likely to play down the seriousness. This means they're much more likely to continue normal activity, including going out to restaurants and then visiting poor grandma. This seems to be a devious use of non-reverse psychology by Democrats, in an attempt to enhance the dying off of Republicans. Or would it be reverse reverse psychology? OSLT. Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
For lack of a better place, I'm putting it here.
"What's the Frequency, Kenneth?", hosted by Paul Fischer. Brief bio: "Paul Fischer is a former News Director of WBAI, former News Director of KPFA and 31 year veteran of CBS News...including 24 years as writer/associate producer on the CBS Evening News with Dan Rather. I've returned to my roots in public radio as an independent producer." His Facebook page: here The program is what he calls a "newsical". A mixture (mashup?) of music and news soundbites with a little narration from Paul. My little radio station, KTWH-LP (KTWH-LP player), broadcasts the show on Tuesdays at 9:00 pm (US central time). If you try, you can probably find other places/times to listen to it, but I don't think it comes as a podcast. Anyway, recommended listening. Entertaining and informative. Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Better Facebook page link.Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. - Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes" - Ronald Reagan (1984) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Highly recommended - The newest version of "What's the Frequency, Kenneth?".
Host Paul Fischer puts out a new episode Tuesday nights. If breaking news, he puts out an updated version. He has put out 4 updates today, the most recent about an hour ago. My little radio station will be broadcasting and webcasting the most recent update at 10:00 pm (central time) tonight. That is, starting in about 1/2 hour from tonight. KTWH 99.5 FM Two Harbors Community Radio If having problems getting the audio (there has been a Chrome issue lately), use the "Having problems? Try the MP3 Stream" link at the above link. Or just go directly to http://peridot.streamguys.com:7490/live Moose Edited by Minnemooseus, : Change subtitle. Edited by Minnemooseus, : Add a ".Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." - John Kenneth Galbraith It says something about the qualities of our current president that the best argument anyone has made in his defense is that he didn't know what he was talking about. - Paul Krugman (as stolen from Chiroptera's signature) "My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes" - Ronald Reagan (1984) "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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