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Message 46 of 50 (848695)
02-13-2019 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Taq
10-02-2017 11:22 AM

Re: A Universal Basic Income.
I'm not up to really getting into this discussion, but I just encountered some "food for thought".

Finland Gave People $640 A Month, No Strings Attached. Here’s What Happened.

Bare link - Guilty - Sorry.


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Message 47 of 50 (848701)
02-14-2019 3:28 AM
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02-13-2019 8:31 PM

Re: A Universal Basic Income.
In short it didn't work so they stopped doing it.

What made me laugh a bit was although it didn't work - in that the group that recieved the payments were no more likely to find paid work than those that didn't - the group that got the money felt happier.

File under 'no shit Sherlock'.

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Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
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Message 48 of 50 (849438)
03-10-2019 1:59 AM

Economy grew 2.9% in 2018. (revision is possible)
Fully 0.1% was lost due to shutdown.

Trade wars cost even more growth than the shutdown.

Republicans really needed 3.0% growth (so they could top Obama'a best year performance).

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Message 49 of 50 (849440)
03-10-2019 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 39 by LamarkNewAge
12-21-2017 12:57 AM

The Desirable direction.(which is...?)
LNA writes:

(I am having trouble finding the article I am looking for. try various keywords. But don't use "homeless" in the search because it will yield trillions of articles attacking the mayor)


city journal new york bill de blasio job training 2015 job david dinkins www.city-journal.org

I have a question. Where on earth did you learn this whole search engine style of what loosely could be called learning? I would be interested in a bit of your life story regarding your early childhood experience with computers and search engines, your formal education, and your current comment regarding my mild ire at your techniques. If you open up to us a bit, we may begin to actually read your links and take interest in what you google to spark discussion amongst us.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. ~RC Sproul
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~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith

You can "get answers" by watching the ducks. That doesn't mean the answers are coming from them.~Ringo

Subjectivism may very well undermine Christianity.
In the same way that "allowing people to choose what they want to be when they grow up" undermines communism.

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Message 50 of 50 (849462)
03-10-2019 9:04 PM
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03-10-2019 10:56 AM

Corey Booker has a plan that goes way beyond job training.
He actually has a bill that guarantees a job to everybody who wants one.

Fellow Presidential candidates Harris, Gillibrand, and Warren signed on.

I have no idea if it will cost the government money for the jobs.

Booker has his arguments, and I encourage you to look at the various costs issues (benefits to society included).

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