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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5589 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5589 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
I request a forum be made on the subject of Darwinist ideology. In this forum things would be discussed like: the link of Darwinism to Social Darwinism / Eugenics, evolutionary psychology selfhelp books, peerreviewed papers on the effects Darwinism has on people's beliefs, etc.
Like I said before the issue of Darwinist ideology is central to the Creation vs Evolution controversy. There would be no big controversy if it weren't for the Social Darwinists, eugenicists, and now the evopsych selfhelp guru's. Page Not Found | Illinois Institute of Technology This link makes the case that Bryant, arguably the most renowned creationist ever in the evolution vs creation controversy, mainly argued against the immorality of Darwinism. Loading... This is the kind of teaching that Bryant argued against. http://www.helsinki.fi/~pjojala/Gasman.htm This is the kind of thing that Bryant foresaw Darwinist ideology would lead to. regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
I request a forum be made on the subject of my impending nuptials with Eliza Dushku, since that subject is central to maintaining my delusions.
"It isn't faith that makes good science, it's curiosity." -Professor Barnhard, The Day the Earth Stood Still
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6474 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
I request that a forum be made on the subject of the breast of Janet Jackson's that we did not get to see. I know that the instigator of this thread does not like comparisons (it could lead to prejudicial terms like areola and nipple) but it would clearly be appopriate within the context of his desire to talk about comparative reproduction.
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 8.7 |
And what will you debate in this forum, Syamsu, and with whom? May as well have an auto-responder to every post which says something like:
"There is no 'darwinian ideology'. Science is not a basis for morality. We wouldn't give a stuff if evolution did cause immorality, it'd still be true."
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MrHambre Member (Idle past 1392 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: |
Mammuthus,
Now it all becomes clear to me. When you talked about the boob at the half-time show, I just assumed you meant Kid Rock. I think the forum on the Janet matter is a good idea, but if I have to endure another of Justin's long-winded excuses about nylon-eating bacteria I think I'll just scream. regards,Esteban "Black and Stacked" Hambre
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PaulK Member Posts: 17822 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I think we should have a "Bigotry and Smear Campaigns" forum.
We can put Syamasu's attacks on "Darwinist Ideology" there along with Buzsaw's attacks on "Islam". Maybe Tamara ranting about "bogus species" and "gill slits" could go there as well. And the rest of us could ignore it because the title of the forum lets everyone know what to expect.
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5589 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5589 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
Go there, and enjoy the substandard vitriol you all seem so fond of.
For other people I encourage you to read the links provided, which substantiates that Darwinist ideology is, and is supposed to be, what the evolution vs creationism controversy is about. There is no serious intelellectual who ignores the issue of Darwinist ideology, because the importance of the holocaust weighs quite heavy still with most intellectuals, and you can't ignore the input of Darwinist professionals and enthusiasts in ideology and effort in that horror. From the indoctrination of youth in Hitlerschools, to the T4 project to kill the disabled, and then to the construction of the concentrationcamps, the evidence is quite straighforward and broad. regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Despite the fact that the Nazi party taught children math, math continues to be taught in our schools to this day. Do we want to bring up our children as Nazis, with no moral compass?
Do you have any idea how much math was used in the concentration camps? Every time new prisoners were brought in, and every time they slaughtered people in the ovens, they had to add, subtract, or in some cases even multiply numbers. Obviously the ideology of math was responsible for the holocaust. "It isn't faith that makes good science, it's curiosity." -Professor Barnhard, The Day the Earth Stood Still
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Syamsu  Suspended Member (Idle past 5589 days) Posts: 1914 From: amsterdam Joined: |
The Nazi party did not teach math, which was taught in regular schools, but they did teach Darwinism in the Hitlerschools. Go and read the links I provided, and then give a meaningful opinion in stead of the usual prattle.
Aside from that you have to judge on the real thing. What was taught to Americans was a racist eugenic ideolgized version of Darwinism. I suppose that the same people who put this kind of thing in the textbook, put the laws against immigration of Jews to America in the lawbook, and fashioned America's eugenic laws. This was then oppurtunely used by Hitler as validation of his own policies. Even if it were so that Darwinism has been completely cleaned up since then, which is not the case, it is too late. Forever the creation vs evolution controversy will be dominated by that history, which is why we can't be without a forum on Darwinist ideology. regards,Mohammad Nor Syamsu
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the Nazi party was the party in government in Germany during World War II, and therefore responsible for the schools. My bad, I guess. But I see you do not deny that math was used in the concentration camps. You could even go so far as to say that the concentration camps could not have existed without math! So, once again, the ideology of math must be responsible for the holocaust. Don't go pawning it off on darwinist ideology when mathematical ideology is so clearly to blame. How can one even discuss math without bringing up how it was applied in the holocaust?
quote: Ut. You sure do. Quite a bit, in fact.
quote: For you, perhaps. For me, the whole thing is quite dominated by the beauty of Ms. Eliza Dushku. On one hand, she's got some pretty obvious reproductive advantages, which would tend to support natural selection. On the other hand, I look at her and am almost tempted to think there just might be a God after all. Of course, this whole Eliza thing is just my personal obsession. So there's certainly no reason to, say, start devoting a whole forum to discussion of Eliza Dushku's excessive beauty. That would just be nuts. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to idly muse awhile on the subject of being "dominated" by Eliza Dushku. And people say I don't understand the importance of Faith... [This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 02-10-2004] "It isn't faith that makes good science, it's curiosity." -Professor Barnhard, The Day the Earth Stood Still
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truthlover Member (Idle past 4059 days) Posts: 1548 From: Selmer, TN Joined: |
Like I said before the issue of Darwinist ideology is central to the Creation vs Evolution controversy. How odd! Yet you can't seem to find one person on this evolution and creationist board who agrees.
There would be no big controversy if it weren't for the Social Darwinists, eugenicists, and now the evopsych selfhelp guru's. Bwahahahaha!!! I suppose when Darwin ran into all that controversy, it was because of all the social Darwinists around at the time who knew his theory was coming and had already prepared their social reforms around it? Let's try this. There would be no big controversy (over evolution and creation) if it weren't for Biblical literalists who need a 6,000 year old earth to maintain their religion. Is that really so hard to see? I was a fundy, and I hung out with YECers. There were many among us who created a morality based on evolution and atheism and charged others with holding that morality, but all of us knew the only thing we cared about was defending our Bible.
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MrHambre Member (Idle past 1392 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: |
Dan,
When your honey's show gets canned, are you going to plunge into an abysmal depression like when Ebert gave Beyond Borders a bad review? regards,Esteban "Bring it On" Hambre
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Uch, can you believe she turned down doing a Buffy spin-off to do that pile of crap?
Regardless, I'll be right by her side to comfort her. Five hundred feet by her side, at least. Damn restraining order...
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Brad McFall Member (Idle past 5032 days) Posts: 3428 From: Ithaca,NY, USA Joined: |
I would like to see some study in Darwiniana of the how the changes in the study of CHEMISTRY affected his(darwin's) thought. When I began reading The power of motion in plants and read the MIT sponsored intro which tried sans plants haveing an "endocrine" equivalent of moving things on the beyond phenomenology of auxin I fully expected some chemical info. It was about taxonomy of motion of motion in plants. Darwin, Asa Grey and other were interested in perversions in tendrils and Hukley passed from the pea to the tendril this fast but there was recently scholarship that indicated that these 1800s scholars were not recognizing Ampere's use of it in magnetism. It all sounds too suspcious for my scientifically santized mind and I wonder how much Darwin did not get the idea of "individual varation" straight out of Faraday's need to be wrong ONLY IF ANY CHEMCIAL VARATION exist. This is clearly not the evopsych but what is it? BWhahah it was not either.
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