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caffeine Member (Idle past 1345 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
So after yesterday's series of indicative votes we finally have some clarity on the way forward!
Parliament is clearly opposed to the Prime Minister's Brexit deal. Parliament is clearly opposed to all possible alternative Brexit deals. Parliament is clearly opposed to Brexit without a deal. Parliament is clearly opposed to stopping Brexit. How far we've come after two years of discussion and negotiation. The mother of all Parliaments could teach Trump a thing or two about the art of the deal.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9630 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
And some people seem to think that the the deal is better when the deal-maker resigns after signing it - so much so that they'll vote for exactly the same deal that they previously violently opposed.
Some of these MPs need drowning in the Thames.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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PaulK Member Posts: 18053 Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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quote: That’s a horrid idea. It took a lot of effort to clean up the river.
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vimesey Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: |
I forget which person made this comment, but it was something along the lines that MPs can have as many votes, and change their minds as many times as they like, but the Country for some reason is not given that option.
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Diomedes Member Posts: 998 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
So Tangle, what's the British slang we need to now use in light of recent developments?
I believe so far, we have gone through: - Quagmire- Buggers muddle - Omni-shambles - Shitstorm - Clusterfuck I believe PaulK has proposed 'FUBAR' (Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition). Makes sense to me, but curious if there is another British term that might sum things up better. And 'Bollocks' isn't going to cut it.
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Heathen Member (Idle past 1604 days) Posts: 1067 From: Brizzle Joined: |
I think this might be the quote you were thinking of
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quote: Edited by Heathen, : No reason given.
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vimesey Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: |
I'll see if there's anything else I can dig up - but when it comes to Jacob Rees-Mogg, I like the portmanteau "smunt".
(The first of the originator words is "smug").Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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vimesey Member (Idle past 393 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined: |
That was it, thank you.
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Tangle Member Posts: 9630 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Diomedes writes: So Tangle, what's the British slang we need to now use in light of recent developments? I think our civil servants would call it a very unsatisfactory situation.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 998 From: Central Florida, USA Joined:
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quote: Brexit: MPs asked to vote on withdrawal agreement only - BBC News So if I am reading that right, they are essentially partitioning May's Deal into component pieces and voting on those. As a stop gap to get the extra extension time as dictated by the EU. Will the EU even consider that valid? It seems like its a way to get May's Deal to a house vote to circumvent Bercow's edict. However, its not really a vote on the whole deal. This is honestly starting to remind me of a Monty Python skit.....
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1345 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined: |
The conservative MP Ben Bradley is in the House of Commons. He voted to remain, then became a Brexiteer, then voted against the deal, then voted for the deal, then said he’d struggled to back the deal again but now says he will back the deal He's the MP for my hometown. He holds the distinction of being the only Tory elected to represent Mansfield since the establishment of democratic elections. In fairness to him, the Leave vote in that area was overwhelming.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 998 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: |
And for the hat trick, May's Deal (or at least part of it) has been defeated for a third time.
quote: Brexit: MPs reject May's EU withdrawal agreement - BBC News So now the stage is set for more indicative votes come Monday. The 'official' deadline is now April 12th, since the May 22nd extension date was only valid if May's Deal was approved.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9630 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Two year delay, followed by referendum where the vote is 55/45 remain.
A boy can hope.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8711 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
That kind of political fragmentation in Parliament cannot continue. Someone from somewhere is going to bring this government down forcing new elections.
Or, like having Her Majesty behead Theresa May, do you guys not collapse ineffective governments anymore either? Can anyone in Parliament say they have any confidence in this government at all? Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.
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caffeine Member (Idle past 1345 days) Posts: 1800 From: Prague, Czech Republic Joined:
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Two year delay, followed by referendum where the vote is 55/45 remain. A boy can hope. If you're going to hope then hope for something like 68% remain - as anything less means at least a decade of hearing people moan about the people's will being ignored.
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