Brexit - Should they stay or should they go?

So crash and burn.Isn't April 12 now the default crash-out date?Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

That kind of political fragmentation in Parliament cannot continue. Someone from somewhere is going to bring this government down forcing new elections.Or, like having Her Majesty behead Theresa May, do you guys not collapse ineffective governments anymore either?Can anyone in Parliament say they have any confidence in this government at all? Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

So is this "crashout " April 12th realistic?Come on Queen. Put an end to this.Cut her head off. Say "NO!"Is there any comment on the matter from Buckingham Palace?Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

I know that. She has the constitutional power but it is socially unacceptable for her to use them. There appears to be none in Parliament either.Just imagine the spectacle of Her Majesty strolling into the Palace of Westminster with a hundred Royal Guards and announcing "This Parliament is dissolved."Wondrous.

I stand corrected. Too bad.Can she at least take her carriage and display a prominent finger at Westminster as she rolls by?

EU: Sure. Take a couple years. We're not the ones going. We'll be right here. Let us know when you're ready. In the mean time, everything's cool. No problem you guys voting in our election. After all, y'aint left yet. You're still one of us. Kisses.

Is that right? Brexit Party polling at 30%+?That's a lot of people that still want to leave despite all the downsides raveled in the last few years.Well, the will of the people and all that.(ABE) source Thank you Percy.The 30%+ number was for the European elections.

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The Opinium survey for the Observer places the Brexit party on 34%, when people were asked how they intended to vote on 23 May, with Labour slipping to 21% and the Conservatives collapsing to just 11%

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Later in the piece was the poll for a British general election.

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The Opinium poll also makes grim reading for the Tories and Labour when voters were asked how they would vote at a general election. Labour is on 28%, while the Tories are on 22%, just one point ahead of the Brexit party on 21%.

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Wait ...May resigns so the parties in Parliament caucus to nominate a new PM. Since the Tories hold an effective majority they can select the PM. The Commons votes and the new PM is presented to the the Queen, who, despite having an executioner with a big ax, is apparently only allowed to respond "Yah, OK."So now the newly approved PM drives back to Westminster to face a no-confidence vote? From the same house that just installed him/her as PM?Is that really possible? Is this just political theater on Labour's part or could the House realistically vote no confidence in the same government they just voted into place? How, in political reality, can this happen?

Doesn't the prospective PM have to stand in the well and be voted on by the whole of the House with a majority of the members voting in favor before he can go present his credentials at Buckingham?Or,Is it that the Tories, being the more numerous party without a majority, send their man to Buckingham requesting a chance to form Her Majesty's next government?How this work?From Wiki.

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The office is not established by any statute or constitutional document but exists only by long-established convention, which stipulates that the monarch must appoint as Prime Minister the person most likely to command the confidence of the House of Commons;[5] this individual is typically the leader of the political party or coalition of parties that holds the largest number of seats in that chamber.

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"most likely to command the confidence of the House of Commons." How is that determined? If a prospective PM can not get the votes to the position of a majority of MPs how can such a "command the confidence of the House" be demonstrated?Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

OK. I'm trying to wrap my head around this.So the Tories have the plurality. The Tories all sit in a room and say "Boris is our man." Now Boris and company go to the other smaller parties and say "Join us." In exchange for some portfolio or other a small party says "OK. Boris is our man, too." So Boris bucks off to Buckingham where Her Majesty looks at him sideways and says, "Well, I suppose. Ok."By the time Boris gets back to Westminster Corbin stands and says "No confidence."The small parties have just joined the coalition to form a government and are ready to assume their duties as agreed with the Conservatives. Is there any real probability they will abandon the government having just agreed to serve with them?If the smaller parties we so inclined to crash the government why would they agree to the coalition in the first place?The whole no confidence shtick seems like politics as usual with no real purpose.I'm missing something.

Ahh, defections.Tory MPs voting no confidence in their own party and its capacity to govern thus provoking a general election where the Conservatives are likely to be relegated to the shadow government for a long, long time.Is that realistic? Apparently it is.

I don't qualify but let’s see ...

They could do away with a land border altogether by annexing Ireland and thus start a war.

They could do away with a land border altogether by ceding Northern Ireland to Ireland and thus start a war.

They could control the Irish border like any other which would violate of the Good Friday accords and thus start a war.

They could leave the border free and open defeating a major reason for the Brexit vote and thus start a war.

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Hmm I think they’re fucked.

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Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

Hey, they could all (England, Wales, N.Ireland and Scotland) seceded from the UK and join the EU en masse.

How'd it get demoted from Major Grief?

OK, so Parliament now controls Parliament rather than the government controlling Parliament.No friggin idea how that works but then I can't understand why Queenie doesn't just dissolve the whole lot and, now that Theresa May is no longer on the scene, take Boris' head.So the PM threatens snap elections. What threaten? Seems the only reasonable thing to do but only about a year late.So now what?BTW, what does it mean that the gov't no longer "controls" Parliament? Was it just a government rubber stamp up 'til now?