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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Yes, the party of election fraud will get to field a new candidate. I am sure Harris will go back to his sinecure as a wingnut pastor.
quote:Bloomberg - Are you a robot? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
But no one knows what evidence was found. As long as it remains secret there is and should be suspicions. If there was no evidence then why is there a need to keep it secret?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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So is this where the true beliefs of the fundie right are exposed? Have fundies truly devolved to the point at which they willingly and publicly defend the slave owners. I am not fooling myself and know that a lot of them did feel that way, but now to see it open and public is said and disheartening.
Oh how far we have fallen. I weep for my country and our world. I fear that hate that has been loosed can never be contained again with out a lot of disruption. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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I think he was a friend of Lincoln's too IIRC
What you think rarely has any basis in reality. They were not friends, they did not even know each other. There is no record that they had ever met. If you have some evidence for them being friends please present it, I am sure many historians would be amazed by your evidence. Lee was an adamant supporter of slavery. He took out ads for the return of escaped slaves. When his father in law passed away he was supposed to free the slaves father in law had owned. He never did. The slaves on his plantations lived in disgusting conditions. The record shows that his slaves did not have any love for him and that he was just as cruel as all the other slave owners. He and others wrote a lot after the war to make him look like an enlightened, reluctant slaveowner, but that is all bullshit. The original source material, including interviews with slaves and writing of Union soldiers that liberated his plantations show he was just a cruel slave owner. A lot of the writings of the Union soldiers liberating slaves is very similar to the reports of the freeing of the victims of the holocaust. In some ways slavery was much worse. The holocaust was intended to wipe out a people in a generation. Slavery kept many generations in inhuman conditions. Life and liberty at the will of a capricious master. He also probably had at least one child with a slave. That was not a consensual relationship. It was rape. Robert E Lee was a vile man. There is no debate about it. He was honorable among other vile slave owners. What does it mean to be considered honorable by child abusers, torturers and rapists? Some actual facts.The Myth of Robert E. Lee And The "Good" Slave Owner Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Oh you have the right but it's pretty disgusting to put yourself above people like Robert E. Lee.
Robert E. Lee was a treasonous, child abusing terrorist. He condoned and participated in the brutal physical abuse of numerous people. He split children from their mothers and sold them off like beasts of burden. It was extremely common for slaveowners to have sex with women(and men) that they owned. I have no actual evidence he did, though there is some historical evidence he may have had at least one child with a slave. Even if he did not have sex with slave he at least condoned the rape and sexual terrorism that was going on around him.I have no problem putting myself above this monster. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Maybe you should actually read what I wrote instead of making up shit and lying about what I wrote..
Lets see what I actually wrote.
Me writes: I have no actual evidence he did, though there is some historical evidence he may have had at least one child with a slave. Even if he did not have sex with slave he at least condoned the rape and sexual terrorism that was going on around him. I acknowledge there is no hard historical evidence that he raped his slaves. I just mention that there is some possible evidence he did. Some of that is possible genetic showing a relationship between some black families and Lee. This needs to be further examined and some better historical access to actual Lee family records. I do not make the allegation that he did, all I do is mention that there some controversy on the subject.What I do accuse of him and what he is guilty of, is condoning the practice. His father-in-law fathered at least two children by slaves. His father was known to visit the slave quarters also. Rape of slaves was what his social group did. So you are lying about what I wrote. How christian of you. Edited by Theodoric, : SpellingFacts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
quote:George Washington Parke Custis - Wikipedia You can follow the links to the original sources.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
He kept his own child in slavery for 23 years.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
As always you completely miss or ignore the point that is being made. As I have said repeatedly, even if he did not rape slaves, most of his social group did rape slaves. He did nothing and said nothing to protest this. Yes he was a man of his society. It was a vile horrible, society that anyone with any sense of decency would not defend.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
OK enough with the insults. If you cannot have a civil debate you should not be here. I am sorry I let you bait me and I react with insults. You need to stop with the insults. Now. If you cannot debate and in good faith I will ask the Admin to do something about it. I am sure others will support that.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Care to present any facts or evidence for your accusations?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Do leftists ever stop accusing their opponents of evil things based only on their imagination? You have no cause to attack me like this.
Stunning truly stunning. I would attribute it to a complete lack of self awareness, but I truly believe we are in the presence of the Queen Mother of all trolls. We should all bow down to such greatness.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
I rarely see movies anymore. I just cannot stand the idiocy. I have a 9 year old and 12 year old so I do see kids movies. Kids movies seem to be where the quality is. Coco and Ferdinand were excellent. I also thought Zootopia, Sing and The Secret Life of Pets were excellent.
The movies I despise the most are "historical" ones. Usually they take a bare snippet of a historical event or person and then present something that is not historical at all. For example, Hidalgo. None of the movie happened in real life, though it was marketed as historical and biographical. They took the tall tales of an admitted liar and even further embellished them. It is almost bibilical because the tall tales and myths were presented as factual.Here is a site that goes through some of the worst "historical" movies. Braveheart and The Patriot are two that drive me the craziest. Partly because Mel Gibson is a vile human being, but mostly because they take very interesting and compelling stories and completely destroy them while claiming they are historic. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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Anyone can roll out a red carpet. As a matter of fact even the crappiest movies in the world had a red carpet premiere. Means nothing, just that someone is paying money for promotions
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Because very people will pay to see them. They can be preached to for free, so why pay to have an ignorant, grifter spew hate?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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