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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gosh a bald assertion. A really stupid one too.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You are not reading the right statement. But that one is true too. The structure remains as described, it's the superficial parts that vary, and if the ToE were true the structure would change too. And I didn't say scientists would agree with me about this, just about the basic sameness of the structure.
What I've been saying is simple and true. Not worth talking to idiots about such things. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I did say somewhere that my impression was that the genes for the basic structure did not vary much, so thanks for the confirmation. I showed no surprise at this as far as I know. "strong selective pressure" would explain it. And: I distinguish between different tetrapods, though apparently you don't.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The three lobed structure is the part of the trilobite that doesn't vary. I don't know why you people can't read, but enough is enough.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The chimp's being "our nearest neighbor" does not make its body structure as similar to ours as a cat's is to a dog's.
Again, enough is enough.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You aren't getting it and obviously don't care, and neither do I any more.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The differences in body structure remain telling. Sorry.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
All those phenomena are what I'm calling "superficial, that is they are not structural.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I only compared dogs and cats, and pointed out the difference in rigidity versus flexibility in their respective skeletons, plus the fact that cats move with their heads below their shoulders but dogs' heads are above their shoulders. I also added behavioral traits as a differentiator. I have said nothing about tetrapods in general, which are too various to mention in this context.
This started with my suggestion that I would differentiate species from one another by their body build. All dogs have the same basic build, yes also bulldogs and whippets. You would know that if you bothered to think about it. All cats have the same body build, including both felis and panthera. Yes I was also talking about the genome because the body build is of course programmed in the genome. Reading back through the thread might help some of the more reading challenged here.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm talking about body build, skeleton, not organs.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
So, are you saying that since all trilobites have three lobes they are not variable enough to say that they evolved into separate species? Well, as long as the three lobes are arranged as they are in all the trilobites, yes.
Would you say the same thing about tetrapods? No because all tetrapods do not have the same body structure. There are many species of tetrapods, which all vary in many ways within their genome or body build. So as I've been considering it, dogs are a species; cats are a species. Etc. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Problem is YOU don't seem able to follow a simple argument.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Structure basically means skeleton, basic build, basic structure; "Superficial" characteristics are like fur color, eye color, things that vary regularly from generation to generation, including such things as changes in overall size, or elongation of the body and so on: they don't change the basic structure, just stretch or compress it. A chart of all the dog breeds shows the same skeletal structure in all of them.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sometimes. Do try to get the general drift. ALL the dog breeds are illustrated with heads high. MOST cat skeletons are illustrated with heads down in a walking gait. Dogs do NOT stalk the way cats do.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1699 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I've answered that a million times already.
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