The Right Side of the News

Many people DON'T cry after losing a piece of tissue.And many people cry when Old Yeller dies.

The question is whether you can maintain that fiction about what it is after seeing this film. My impression is that few can, if any. Of course strong men don't cry -- even if it is a baby?I'm sure I'd cry for Old Yeller too.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

I am curious, Faith. Not judgemental or critical, so please understand the context...have you any children of your own?

A daughter, two grandsons, also had an abortion when I was twenty.

Almost no one is pro-abortion. Personally, I think every elective abortion is very sad, and a lot of the reasons for an abortion can be laid at the feet of our culture that doesn't support young mothers.The crux of the matter is whose in charge of deciding if an abortion happens. Do we have the right to tell a pregnant woman what she does with her body? What impact have abortion bans had on women in the past? Sometimes in a free society we have to afford people the right to make hard decisions for themselves.Edited by Taq, : No reason given.

What we are seeing right now is a rash of anti-abortion laws to charge the woman receiving an abortion with murder, potentially punishable by death by execution (eg, in Texas and Alabama). Furthermore, Georgia has a bill that the governor is likely to sign that could lead to charges of negligent homicide for a woman who has a miscarriage, especially if some kind of accident occurred.Only about half of all human pregnancies will naturally go full term to live birth. Most spontaneous abortions (AKA miscarriages) happen before the woman is even aware that she is pregnant and they normally happen because the embryo/fetus is not viable (eg, it has mutations or alleles that make it nonviable). And there's the case of still birth, which I'm sure would be subject to these laws.A woman who has been through a miscarriage or still birth has already been traumatized enough (eg, my sister-in-law had a still birth and she and her husband were devastated by it), so then we have these anti-abortionists seeking to prosecute her for it. That shows us how evil those anti-abortion fanatics are, which reflects similarly on their religion.But since their motivation is to establish Christian Sharia Law, we need to ask just what the Bible does actually say about abortion and what punishment is called for -- they do claim that it's "God's Absolute Law", don't they? All that I am aware of is God commanding Abraham to perform an abortion and even giving Abraham instructions on how to do it. And if you cause the death of an unborn child then you pay the father a monetary fine for his loss of property. That last one conflicts with anti-abortionists' assertions about when an embryo/fetus becomes a person, since the Bible treats it as property, not as a person. Also compare the punishment for killing a fetus (a monetary fine, so basically a misdemeanor) with gathering firewood on the Sabbath (death, so basically a serious felony). It doesn't look like the Bible nor God take abortion seriously, so what's actually going on here? Does the Bible say other things about abortion specifically that would support anti-abortionists taking such drastic measures?

If I could give you a thousand cheers for this post, I would!

Still, from both sides, I want to know just exactly what kind of Christian Sharia Law justifications actually exist in support of such draconian legislature.One of the problems that we are all too well aware of is that most "true Christians" have their beliefs and they believe that the Bible supports their beliefs, even when it doesn't. As a result, they believe very fervently that their beliefs are based on the Bible and directly supported by the Bible, even though that is not at all true. The trivial example is that by an incredible coincidence God hates exactly all the people that we also hate -- to quote Nance's Counter-Intelligence Law: "Coincidence takes a lot of planning."So my basic position is question the basic position of others. So if they want to insist that their basic position is being dictated by "God's Absolute Law", then I sure as hell want to see exactly what that "God's Absolute Law" actually says.I haven't seen it yet.

I don't think there are many who are unaware of how messy the process is. A lot of things are unpleasant to look at but that doesn't mean that just avoiding them is a solution. Baby ducks covered in oil is a disturbing sight too but few people advocate shutting down the industry as a solution.

I do wonder how many of you could see a living baby that escaped from an abortion and go ahead and kill it.

None of that attitude is in the film. But perhaps you don't really want to know what is in the film

If you haven't seen it, how do you know?

A living baby isn't aborted, it's born.

Or Netflix ... have not seen or heard anything about it here: has it hit the video market yet?The clip you linked is just actors glad talking their work. Whoopie. A prime example of self-selection in action. A propaganda movie for the wanna believers, and very little evidence of skepticism on its truthfulness. Not to my thinking. A big success would be seeing it in major theaters, not as a video vanity publication (anyone can "publish" virtually anything on youtube).Where's the beef?Enjoy

I wonder how many people could kill a cow, and how many of those people would still eat a hamburger without feeling guilty.