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Faith 
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Message 25 of 50 (850926)
04-17-2019 10:29 AM
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04-16-2019 8:54 PM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
And of course your totally made up opinion is far more trustworthy than two thousand years of believers' views. One wonders how so many millions could have been persuaded to believe given that your opinion is certainly the most common.
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Message 27 of 50 (850928)
04-17-2019 10:42 AM
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04-17-2019 10:40 AM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
But of course! It MUST be gullibility when so many disagree with the enlightened ones.

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Message 29 of 50 (850933)
04-17-2019 10:54 AM
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04-17-2019 10:48 AM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
Amazing how the reports of people who have actually had the experience are always rejected in favor of totally made up stuff by atheists. Even stories about protracted periods in which no decision was made at all, in which the person did a lot of research and thinking about it. Really remarkable that. And by people who consider themselves to be rational and objective too. But only atheists are rational and objective, see how that works?
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Message 35 of 50 (850983)
04-18-2019 12:30 PM
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04-18-2019 12:24 PM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
There were even some true Christians in the Catholic Church despite its aggressive pagan superstitiousness, but outside that institution there were in fact millions of true Christians, many of them hiding away in the mountains where nevertheless the RCC would pursue them and slaughter them from time to time. God always keeps a remnant of the true believers alive from generation to generation. Those outside the RCC sent out missionaries to teach the truth and they did eventually change the views of the people, who were ready for the Reformation when it came.
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Message 36 of 50 (850984)
04-18-2019 12:37 PM
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04-17-2019 2:36 PM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
Of course I'm not tallying numbers of believers by vote but by what I know is the true doctrine.

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Message 39 of 50 (850997)
04-18-2019 1:22 PM
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04-18-2019 1:13 PM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
But the Reformation came from inside the Catholic Church: Calvin, Knox, Luther, Tyndale, Wycliffe, Zwingli, etc. were all Catholic priests, weren't they?
Gosh, you don't say! What a surprise! The Hiding Dissidents recognized the work the Reformers were doing and the Reformers recognized the Dissidents as precursors of their work. The newly invented printing press helped get the word out to all segments of society. What does inside or out matter? All those who followed the Reformation had been inside the RCC too before they all came out. Golly Gosh, revelation upon revelation.
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Message 41 of 50 (851011)
04-18-2019 1:49 PM
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04-18-2019 1:43 PM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
I didn't claim the Reformation came from outside the Church. They were all Catholic priests who became Protestants through their study of the Bible. But that is also how the dissidents originally became dissidents: by reading the Bible. The Waldensians lived high in the Alps, I don't think the Albigensians had a hiding place but I'm not sure, or the Bogomils or some other groups I'm probably forgetting. Oh the Lollards. And their doctrine wasn't perfect either but it was biblical and they all knew that the RCC was the Antichrist system. The Reformation cleaned up the doctrine and also recognized the papacy as the Antichrist system.
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Message 44 of 50 (851065)
04-18-2019 8:38 PM
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04-18-2019 2:23 PM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
No, you are wrong.

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Message 45 of 50 (851066)
04-18-2019 8:39 PM
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04-18-2019 2:06 PM


Re: But It Will Never Go Away
Yes, read what I wrote. The missionaries didn't bring the Reformation but they had a role in changing people's minds so they were ready for it.

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