Religion Decline in US

I'd divide Rational into Good Rational and Bad Rational. Bad Rational says there "must" be something beyond the natural and it stretches the rational beyond its limits to try to prove it. Good Rational is skeptical of Bad Rational.

At the library where I hang out, there's a large group of students from a local Muslim school that comes in every week. What strikes me is that though most of them are non- white and the girls wear hijabs, they're just like any other Canadians of the same age group. I expect that many of the parents are concerned about how quickly their children have absorbed Canadian culture, and are probably losing their traditional culture.

Unfortunately, we do: Wikipedia. Almost a carbon copy.

I'll point out again, since you keep forgetting, that for at least half of that two thousand years the prevailing view was Catholic. We know how you love to be inclusive when it suits you.

But the Reformation came from inside the Catholic Church: Calvin, Knox, Luther, Tyndale, Wycliffe, Zwingli, etc. were all Catholic priests, weren't they?

So name those hiding dissidents. And explain why they are not the prominent names in the Reformation. What matters is that you claimed the reforms came from outside the Church and, as far as I can tell, that is false.

InMessage 35 you said, "Those outside the RCC sent out missionaries to teach the truth and they did eventually change the views of the people, who were ready for the Reformation when it came."

I did read what you wrote. Now you're going from "they did eventually change the views of the people" to "they had a role in changing people's minds". So, if they only had "a" role, who had the other role(s)?

I named some of the reformers who definitely were INSIDE of the Catholic Church and they definitely DID know the Bible. Luther translated the Bible into German, for fuck's sake. The dissenters that Faith mentioned may or may not have had an effect on the Reformers. I'm not an outsider. I'm the one who accepts the message, remember?