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ringo

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Message 1704 of 1748 (849892)
03-24-2019 2:20 PM

Reply to: Message 1703 by Phat
03-24-2019 10:16 AM

Re: Origins Of Reality

Phat writes:

See, this is why I am a political moderate. Keywords: Should Be Able. Never Required.

But of course you are required to pay your taxes. You are required to contribute to defense, policing, roads, schools, etc.

Phat writes:

The two-party system prevents excessive measures.

Not when both parties are conservative.

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ringo writes:

And we certainly do need a consensus on what's best for all of us.

How would such a consensus be drawn? Measured? Implemented?

Democracy.

Phat writes:

Reread the Woman at the well. If you never thirst again, the glass cant very well be empty now can it?

It can if never thirsting again is an empty promise.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1706 of 1748 (849905)
03-25-2019 11:38 AM

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03-25-2019 5:32 AM

Re: Origins Of Reality

Phat writes:

So what makes a promise empty? Lack of Evidence or Lack Of Belief?

You can answer that for yourself. Even if you believe fervently in leprechauns, isn't the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow still an empty promise? And why? Isn't it because there's no evidence for leprechauns?

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1708 of 1748 (850972)
04-18-2019 11:51 AM

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04-18-2019 6:26 AM

Re: Origins Of Reality

Phat writes:

Even if God did not exist, we all know that rainbows exist and that gold exists.

And we know that there is no gold at the end of the rainbow. What's your point? Even if God did exist, we know He's not going to answer your prayers.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1717 of 1748 (851138)
04-20-2019 12:19 PM

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04-18-2019 3:41 PM

Re: Origins Of Reality

Phat writes:

ringo writes:

Even if God did exist, we know He's not going to answer your prayers.

This is where you and I respectfully disagree. *We* do not have a consensus on this point.

*We* do, in fact, have a consensus, even if *you* are not part of it.

But I think you are part of the consensus, if you are honest. You know damn well that you can't demonstrate answered prayer. You might infer answered prayer from some events but surely you have to admit that prayer is not a reliable problem-solver.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1718 of 1748 (851139)
04-20-2019 12:23 PM

Reply to: Message 1713 by dwise1
04-18-2019 6:56 PM

Re: So is the Rapture happening this year?

dwise1 writes:

I don't know what the current schedule is supposed to be.

"Soon".

That kind of time-table doesn't work well for trains but when there's only one event on the track, there's little danger of collisions.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1725 of 1748 (851264)
04-21-2019 2:20 PM

Reply to: Message 1723 by Faith
04-20-2019 9:57 PM

Faith writes:

The way we are able to consider dates is by supposing that as the time draws near God will give us a heads-up as is often the case with biblical prophecy.

A heads-up is hard to see when your head is up your ass.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1730 of 1748 (851318)
04-22-2019 11:40 AM

Reply to: Message 1728 by Theodoric
04-22-2019 9:28 AM

Theodoric writes:

The evangelical movement to support Israel is not based upon concern for Israel or Jews....

Which explains how they can be "pro_Israel" and anti-Semitic at the same time.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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Message 1739 of 1748 (851343)
04-22-2019 2:20 PM

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04-22-2019 12:53 PM

Re: Getting Tanner

Phat writes:

Perhaps the real cause of conflict in the world stems directly from the demise of white men in power throughout the US and Europe.

And there has never been conflict among white men? Maybe you want to think that through. Hint: try Googling European history.

And our geese will blot out the sun.

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