The Right Side of the News

Let's paint a picture.We have an entire group of calm, respectful people.
Then one person comes careening in, screaming and yelling about random ideas that don't even exist, coherent sentences are not a concern, and displays an inability to address anyone without including an insult.If we're going to describe one of these two sides as 'having everything twisted in their heads' I think it's very clear to everyone who it is without even needing to actually say it.When words do not match reality, even a child understands that something wrong is going on.Your claims fall flat.
As such useless drivel tends to do.

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1 John 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

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1 John 2:11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

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1 John 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

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1 John 4:20-21 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

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Jacob I have loved but Esau I have hated: God.I hate all those who hate You: David the KingI have hated those who do wickedly: David the KingEdited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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John 8:7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

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Maybe God is allowed to hate but you are not.

David hated evil people.This has nothing to do with casting stones. Idiot.

He was an adulterer and a murderer, hardly a role model. Of course it is. The obvious implication is that only those who are without sin are permitted to be self-righteous.

I note you reject Christianity.

So, I guess you know what the "Final Solution" should be for all the people you hate...

Clearly you aren't really concerned with what the Bible says, but with what you want it to say in order to justify your own opinions, but I'll try anyway... Obviously there are differences in opinion about what is right for this country, what our leadership should be like, and what direction this country should be going. However, none of these differences give you the righteous authority to hate your fellow Americans or your fellow human beings. To claim God is on the side of your hatred is nothing less than taking the Lord's name in vain.You are right about one thing... this country has never been more polarized (at least since the Civil War), but it's not hatred and anger that is going to bring us together. You being such a righteous, holy person should realize that.HBDEdited by herebedragons, : No reason given.

Here are 4 calm, respectful responses to Faith; Your picture is painted about as well as every picture liberals paint.

So it's okay for the left to hate, but the right can't "fight fire with fire" when it sees the need? Hate in the U.S. has been in high gear since Nov. 8th 2016, and it hasn't come from the right.

Hate's certainly come from Faith. She's explicitly embraced her hate more than once.Alas, there apparently are millions like her.Anyone is allowed to hate, no matter how irrational. At least Faith is honest enough to admit she hates so many people because of what they are or she thinks they've done. "He started it" was pathetic in first grade and so much more so for adults.

This is very telling about today's Democrat party. Do you know what Lee's views were on slavery?

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Lee held slavery to be an evil institution

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Lee in his well-known analysis of slavery from an 1856 letter called it a moral and political evil.

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Robert E. Lee - WikipediaLet me guess, you don't care. All the civil war was, was a fight between those who loved slavery and those who disagreed with it, and that's the end of it as far as you're concerned, right?The war was much more complex than that. To pretend it wasn't, to pretend that you know what the mindset of people was back in those days is typical of the knee-jerk thinking that is increasingly going on with liberals. Lee seems to have believed that if slavery was slowly phased out by the free will of the largely Christian mindset of those days, and increasing technology in the uses of steel and machines, that the transition away from it could be much smoother than new laws passed and ending it abruptly. He knew that many of the suddenly freed slaves wouldn't know what to do with themselves. That problem was very clear in the decades following the war, and the problem isn't completely gone today.It's not fair to say that Lee was ~one of~ the most prominent, respected people involved in the southern cause. He was THE MOST prominent respectful person of the south in that war. You might want to check out his many accomplishments in the above Wikipedia link. My elementary school history book portrayed him as a decent man, and I even happen to have a close-by, personal reference to him. And that reference agrees perfectly with the picture most good history books paint of him. My great-grandfather was a boy in Maryland during that war, his father was a staunch Union supporter, he was a guide for one of the union armies. Yet here is what my great-grandfather said about Lee;

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"Gen. Lee was at Austin Poffenbarger's house where he made his headquarters. Austin and my father were friends and neighbors. Us boys wanted to see what Gen. Lee looked like, so we went over there. That's another time I won't ever forget.

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"Gen. Lee came out in the yard to talk to us. I thought then that I had never seen such a handsome man and I'm sure I haven't since; at least not one who made the impression on me that Lee did.
"The general talked to us kindly, asked us about our schools and our farms and warned us to keep out of danger. It didn't make any difference to us boys whether our fathers were Unionists or Confederates; Gen. Lee was a hero to us.

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My great-grandfather died before I was born, but Message 727 (another thread from awhile back) explains where I got this from. If there'd have been a black boy in that group, do you think Lee would have said the same thing? That he wouldn't have wanted to see a 10 year old black boy killed in crossfire any more than he would have wanted it to happen to one of those white boys? Just how hate-filled and distorted is your view of him?If you don't care about any of this, if you just close your eyes and hold your ears and call him a racist, then what you're doing is calling pretty much half of the U.S. racist, as it was 155 / 160 years ago. Does that mean the ENTIRE U.S. was racist in 1820, or 1830? As Trump referred in the video Faith put up a few dozen messages back, does that mean George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were racists too, since they owned slaves?Trump and other Republicans often claim how much they love and respect their country. But when liberals claim they do as well, it just doesn't go along with the disrespect they show for it's history and it's prominent historical figures.The point of all this? There really were "fine people" in Charlottesville defending the statue, and Trump really wasn't a racist by saying it.

And it would be really nice if the 12 haters against her here were that honest.

I don't care what "side" they are on. If they claim to be TRUE Christians then they have no business spewing hate - regardless of their political views. If those who claim to be atheists are hating, I can't very well quote scripture to reprimand them can I? But if you associate yourself with Christ, then you should be held to a higher standard (or at least to the standard that Christ taught).I find myself holding views that are more and more considered liberal, such as protection of the environment, social justice, gun control, health care available for all, and I place a high value on education and individual freedoms. I am not filled with hate, but I am increasingly seeing "conservative values" as very much un-Christian.And yes, I think Trump is an absolutely terrible president and human being and he will certainly not be receiving my vote in 2020... but that's not hate. It's standing up for what I believe is right. I think you are confused as to what constitutes left and right.HBD