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JonF
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Message 1576 of 5796 (851790)
05-02-2019 11:52 AM
Reply to: Message 1546 by Faith
05-01-2019 1:43 PM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
It's obvious to all that you are not a follower of the teachings of Jesus.

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JonF
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Message 1577 of 5796 (851791)
05-02-2019 12:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1564 by marc9000
05-01-2019 9:04 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
It's impossible to have "protection of the environment" as described by a self-serving government, without a loss of individual freedom. It's impossible to have "social justice" (redistribution of earnings by a self serving government) without a loss of the individual freedoms of those who earn those confiscated earnings.
It's impossible to have a modern human society without some loss of freedom and distribution of resources.

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AZPaul3
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Message 1578 of 5796 (851792)
05-02-2019 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1565 by marc9000
05-01-2019 9:33 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
There is evidence of RACISM toward blacks in northern cities, by businesses and politicians, for 70, 80, 90 years after the civil war ended. Would you like to see a little of that evidence?
Don't need to. We see it American society writ large today. You don't really believe that racism in this country has been abated do you?
One of the many problems we have today is, with the strides we've made in curtailing some of the most open and blatant racism practiced in America, we still have the majority of the problem left to be addressed while the alt-reich holds KKK rallies and the Republicans (local, state and national) seek to reverse those gains through legislation.
And it is you christians, through the republicans and the alt-reich, leading the charge against human rights, healthcare and economic sufficiency.
Let me ask this. Does a multi-billion $$ company really need another untaxed $5bn profit when we have whole segments of people needing to be housed, fed, employed and healed? Do they really have a "right" to excessive wealth while the rest of the society suffers?
But it means respecting the views of others in your country who don't want traditional, time honored monuments to be torn down because of nothing more than emotional whims.
Racism/slavery is not some time honored tradition. Its demise is not some "emotional whim". And that you think they are shows how deep your christian hatred has become.
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Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1579 of 5796 (851793)
05-02-2019 2:29 PM
Reply to: Message 1578 by AZPaul3
05-02-2019 1:06 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
But it means respecting the views of others in your country who don't want traditional, time honored monuments to be torn down because of nothing more than emotional whims.
Racism/slavery is not some time honored tradition. Its demise is not some "emotional whim". And that you think they are shows how deep your christian hatred has become.
I think it's worth mentioning that the descendants of slaves might feel a bit differently about monuments on PUBLIC LAND that honors slave owners who committed treason, I repeat, WHO WERE TRAITORS against the United States of America, the Union. They also were the LOSERS of the Civil War!
Most of these monuments to slavery were erected during a period when lynching of black Americans was common and the purpose was a warning to every black American that they and their families could be murdered with impunity at any time.
Every Confederate symbol is a monument to traitors, and treason, and slavery, and bigotry, and oppression, and hate, and LOSERS! No one will forget what they did to our country and only retards would need them to jog their memory.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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Faith 
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Message 1580 of 5796 (851795)
05-02-2019 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 1576 by JonF
05-02-2019 11:52 AM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
That's a misquote. Jesus was telling believers to "love one another as I have loved you." Yes we are to love everybody but this was a special commandment to be obeyed among the believers only. The disciples fed the widows who were believers, they sent money to help other churches that were struggling in a famine. They did not do that for unbelievers.
And I pointed out that some believers here where Christian theology is SO well understood (not) were ready to pounce on me and judge me, which is not my failure of love but theirs.
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Faith 
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Message 1581 of 5796 (851796)
05-02-2019 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1573 by herebedragons
05-02-2019 11:08 AM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Trump is the most inept, egotistical and ethically bankrupt person to ever hold the office of President of the United States. The reason people support him is because he plays to their own personal fears and biases.
This is a typical anti-Right lying attack on Trump that is one of the reasons I object to anti-=Rightists. Inept he is not, he's managed to get a lot done even in the teeth of this kind of vicious attack on him over the last two to three years. He's not egotistical either that I can see. Confident, yes, he knows his abilities and I think he knows his enemy pretty well too. And ethically backrupt is the biggest lie of them all. He's done absolutely nothing to deserve that accusation, it's all fake news.
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PaulK
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Message 1582 of 5796 (851797)
05-02-2019 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1581 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:07 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
quote:
This is a typical anti-Right lying attack on Trump that is one of the reasons I object to anti-=Rightists.
In other words you hate people who dare to criticise Trump but expect to be allowed to freely criticise opposing politicians with no regard for the truth.
Is the hypocrisy of that position not obvious enough for you ?

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Tanypteryx
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Message 1583 of 5796 (851798)
05-02-2019 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 1581 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:07 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
And the Anti-Christ wins.
Faith writes:
Confident, yes, he knows his abilities and I think he knows his enemy pretty well too. And ethically backrupt is the biggest lie of them all. He's don't absolutely nothing to deserve that accusation, it's all fake news.
His only ability is as a Con man. The above is proof he is good at it.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
Joined: 06-23-2003


Message 1584 of 5796 (851799)
05-02-2019 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1580 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:00 PM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
"Yes, we are to love everybody, except for the majority of people whom I hate for one or more reasons. "

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herebedragons
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Posts: 1517
From: Michigan
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Message 1585 of 5796 (851801)
05-02-2019 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1581 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:07 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Its my opinion, my honest opinion, based things he has said and done that I have observed and have come to my own conclusions about; there is nothing fake or dishonest about my assessment. I do not consider myself to be a "leftist" nor do I listen to "leftist" media. You may have a different opinion of Trump, but that's mine - it's not a matter of "leftist lying."
It just blows my mind that you can in good conscious listen to the things he says and does and consider him to be God's gift to this country. I just can't wrap my head around how Christians can support him and his policies. I could understand it if the response was "he's better than the alternatives" but that's not it.
So my position on Trump is no more lying and unethical than is yours.
HBD

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.

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herebedragons
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Posts: 1517
From: Michigan
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Message 1586 of 5796 (851803)
05-02-2019 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 1580 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:00 PM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
More validation and rationalization of your misbehavior. Perfect.
More interpretation of the Bible to justify your transgressions. Predictable.
More blaming your failure to love on others. Sigh...

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.

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Faith 
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Message 1587 of 5796 (851804)
05-02-2019 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 1586 by herebedragons
05-02-2019 3:37 PM


Re: Thanks to marc9000 for his kindness
More blaming your judgmentalness on me, which Jesus specifically commanded you not to do.

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Faith 
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Message 1588 of 5796 (851805)
05-02-2019 3:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1585 by herebedragons
05-02-2019 3:27 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Well, since I DON'T have your reaction, I have no idea what you are talking about, and you don't explain. I just hear him talking about his achievements and hopes for further accomplishments, despite all the obstructions the Democrats throw at him.

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JonF
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Posts: 6174
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Message 1589 of 5796 (851806)
05-02-2019 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 1588 by Faith
05-02-2019 3:51 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
Almost all those alleged achievements and hopes are illusions. You should listen to others.

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Faith 
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Message 1590 of 5796 (851807)
05-02-2019 4:01 PM
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05-02-2019 3:58 PM


Re: The fake news about Charlottesville answered again
All the conservative talk show hosts I listen to whenever I can agree with him that he has achieved a lot despite Democrat obstruction. They are very unhappy with the border situation but that of course is the fault of the Democrats and not Trump who has been doing his best to solve that problem

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