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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The phrase "one another" refers to the disciples. Jesus addresses that group in particular to love one another, although He also affirms loving one's neighbor. We are to love both but there is a special way we are to love the brethren, and being a little too ready to pounce and condemn a sister in Christ is a violation of that commandment.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Context is a big stumbling block for nonbelievers. Feeding the thousands was a miracle Jesus did twice. He did miracles to validate His identity and draw people to Him. Feeding the widows was an everyday ministry of the Church and not a miracle, purely an act of loving one another.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
marc9000 writes:
Nothing, Nobody and Nuts went for a walk in the woods. Nothing fell into a hole; he looked up and saw Nobody. Nobody looked into the hole and saw Nothing; he told Nuts to go and find a rope. Hellllooooooo down there!!!!!!!!! If I have a shovel, you're on the world's biggest excavator, and you're halfway to China! Nuts ran through the woods until he encountered a Stranger. "Nothing fell into a hole," he said, "Nobody told me to find a rope." The stranger said, "Are you nuts?" "Yes."And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Percy Member Posts: 22505 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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PaulK writes: Your “explanation” doesn’t make a lot of sense either:
quote:The “sanctuary cities” are obviously dealing with their share of the problems. Why should they want additional problems foisted on them? I think it important to explicitly note what Trump was really doing. He wasn't attempting to address problems and issues surrounding immigration. He was attempting to get sanctuary cities to knuckle under by threatening to overwhelm their social and economic resources. If it takes shared national sacrifice to solve the immigration problem then so be it, but that is unlikely because immigration enriches a country, especially by the 2nd and 3rd generations. A steady flow of immigrants (i.e., a healthy and sustained immigration pipeline) is necessary to a country's success.
quote: Any such evidence would be irrelevant to my position. Of course there were racists everywhere. I'm not sure what Marc was trying to say here, or why he was trying to say it. That both North and South were racist before, during and after the Civil War is not in doubt, but it was only the South that insisted on maintaining slavery, and only the South that after the war did all they could to keep blacks enslaved (in effect if not in reality) to the extent possible. --Percy
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
He fed the people because they were hungry.
Feeding the thousands was a miracle Jesus did twice. He did miracles to validate His identity and draw people to Him.quote:There's nothing in the context that suggests He did it to show off His magical powers. Faith writes:
And the only difference was that the Church didn't do it by miracles. The target audience was the same - everybody. ("All nations.") Feeding the widows was an everyday ministry of the Church and not a miracle, purely an act of loving one another.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: The phrase "one another" refers to the disciples. Jesus's message of love was meant to be universal otherwise it's meaningless.
quote: Forgotten the Good Samaritan have we? Forgotten that you are meant to love even your enemies?
quote: Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There's no point in saying it again. You are ignorant of Christian theology and nothing I say is going to change your mind.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Yes, Trump had in mind overwhelming the illegal anti-American sanctuary cities with the illegals they profess to love so much. I rather like the cleverness of that idea but I'm aware that there are people in those cities who are not happy with their sanctuary status and I don't want to make life difficult for them too. I'd prefer that he just deport a million of them at a time the way Eisenhower did.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9516 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 5.1 |
Faith writes: There's no point in saying it again. You are ignorant of Christian theology and nothing I say is going to change your mind. How can I be wrong, I'm quoting from your book?Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1474 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Theology takes the entire book into account and you think a single quote should suffice. Just shows your ignorance.
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ringo Member (Idle past 442 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
But you ignore everything in the book that counters your own personal prejudices. And when you do (rarely) quote something to support your view, you're the one who ignores the context. Theology takes the entire book into account and you think a single quote should suffice.And our geese will blot out the sun.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Oh please tell me what you think you know about Eisenhower. You might want to research actual history before you answer.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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But San Francisco for example, wants as many of them as possible in the country for their votes, but they'd rather others far from them, in border towns, deal with their illiteracy and all their problems
They can't and don't vote in state or Federal elections. If you want to argue otherwise, include evidence. And let's see the statistics on literacy in their native language, an on "other problems".
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined:
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The main difference is that sanctuary cities are not violating Federal or any law. They are refusing, as is their right and duty, to enforce Federal law for the agencies responsible for the enforcement.
Do you really believe that this administration would not act if they were really violating Feder law? Exactly what Federal law do you think they are violating? Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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JonF Member (Idle past 198 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
What sanctuary cities are doing is not illegal. If it were Trump would have prosecuted them long ago.
If you want to argue that their inactions are illegal, cite the specific applicable law.
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