The Right Side of the News

Unless they were of Trump.

Calling it fake news doesn't affect reality.Were Trump not president he'd be under multiple indictments for obstruction. E.g. ordering McGahn to fire Mueller, twice, without justification.

Most undocumented immigrants overstayed their visas. But that doesn't whip up a crowd like the brown menace.

Wall stupid. That's the point.

The wall is a waste of money because it won't significantly affect the problems.It may slow (but definitely not stop) the flow of asylum seekers. They come to crossing points and often turn themselves in.It won't stop the flow of undocumented immigrants. It might cut it down a litte. They make ladders in Mexico. They've dug extremely sophisticated tunnels (with forced-air ventilation, electric lights, and train tracks for very small trains) under the border and however deep the wall's foundation they'll go five feet deeper.It won't have a significant effect on the drug trade because most of the drugs come through ports of entry that the wall won't block. Also see tunnels above.It won't stop human trafficking for the same reason it won't stop drugs,.The original concept of the wall was a mnemonic device to remind Trump to talk about immigration. None of the originators thought anyone would take it seriously.Which boils down to:The wall is a stupid idea.

Most of the immigrants who cross the Southern border are able to take care of themselves and don't become a drain on our taxpayer dollars.I see you've forgotten the discussion of what aid undocumented immigrants are or are not eligible for

The data is facts. No trust necessary.

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The report presents information about the mode of arrival of the undocumented population that resided in the United States in 2014. To simplify the presentation, it divides the 2014 population into two groups: overstays and entries without inspection (EWIs). The term overstay, as used in this paper, refers to undocumented residents who entered the United States with valid temporary visas and subsequently established residence without authorization. The term EWI refers to undocumented residents who entered without proper immigration documents across the southern border.

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The estimates are based primarily on detailed estimates of the undocumented population in 2014 compiled by CMS and estimates of overstays for 2015 derived by DHS. Major findings include the following:

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” In 2014, about 4.5 million US residents, or 42 percent of the total undocumented population, were overstays.

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” Overstays accounted for about two-thirds (66 percent) of those who arrived (i.e., joined the undocumented population) in 2014.

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” Overstays have exceeded EWIs every year since 2007, and 600,000 more overstays than EWIs have arrived since 2007.

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” Mexico is the leading country for both overstays and EWIs; about one-third of undocumented arrivals from Mexico in 2014 were overstays.

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” California has the largest number of overstays (890,000), followed by New York (520,000), Texas (475,000), and Florida (435,000).

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” Two states had 47 percent of the 6.4 million EWIs in 2014: California (1.7 million) and Texas (1.3 million).

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” The percentage of overstays varies widely by state: more than two-thirds of the undocumented who live in Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Pennsylvania are overstays. By contrast, the undocumented population in Kansas, Arkansas, and New Mexico consists of fewer than 25 percent overstays.

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Doesn't change that they are facts.Duh.

OK, what do your sources say. What percentage of the drug/human/asylum seekers/border crossers do they project the wall will stop?Bet they don't mention any measure of effectiveness. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.

ITYM falsify the papers they needed.

Thanks, I was thinking of checking out the Cato Institute on that.They ain't liberals, Faith. Strongly conservative and libertarian. Founded by one of the Koch brothers. They also are big on truth. The immigrant immunization statistics I showed you came from them."The mission of the Cato Institute is to originate, disseminate, and increase understanding of public policies based on the principles of individual liberty, limited government, free markets, and peace. Our vision is to create free, open, and civil societies founded on libertarian principles."

They did look at revenue but severely underestimated it. From the Cato article linked above:

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FAIR counts the benefits consumed by the U.S. born American citizen children of illegal immigrants. This means that FAIR also doesn’t count the taxes paid by these U.S. born citizens when they start working. Counting the benefits consumed but ignoring the tax revenue they pay (or will do so in the future) is one way FAIR gets such a negative result for this report....

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FAIR also undercounts the tax revenue generated by illegal immigrants. The first and most egregious undercount is that they ignore how increased housing demand raises the value of all real estate per county which also raises property tax revenue. According to research by economist Jacob Vigdor, each immigrant raises the value of all homes in their county by 11.5 cents. {I think this and the ensuing calculations are poorly justified - JonF}...

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FAIR also ignores the incidence of taxation when it comes to calculating their Social Security and Medicare contributions. In law, employers and employees are supposed to evenly split Social Security and Medicare contributions but the reality is more complicated....

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FAIR also ignores the incidence of taxation when it comes to calculating their Social Security and Medicare contributions. In law, employers and employees are supposed to evenly split Social Security and Medicare contributions but the reality is more complicated.

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FAIR probably undercounts sales tax revenue. I write “probably” because one of the sentences on page 54 of their report does not make any sense grammatically or mathematically.

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Trump softens his characterization of Mueller report findings to 'essentially no obstruction'There's video at the link. Wonder if someone sane got a tiny particle of reality into his head.

Trump accused of taking a child's ball to cheat and win a championship at one of his golf clubs

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Trump had missed the club championship at his Trump International course in Florida while meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un in Singapore.

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About a month later, Trump was back at Trump International when he saw Ted Virtue, an investor who is a member of the club and had won the championship while Trump was away. Virtue was playing with his son, who was about 10 or 11 years old, according to Reilly, when Trump rode his cart over to them at the 12th hole.

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Trump joked that Virtue won his championship only because he had been out of town and then challenged him to play the final six holes of the course for the title, according to the story Reilly told to Vox. Then things really got weird.

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Reilly, who verified the story with members of the club, told the following story to Vox's Illing:

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Ted tries to laugh it off, but Trump is dead serious. Trump says, "We're going to play these last six holes for the championship." And Ted's like, "I'm playing with my son, but thanks anyway." But Trump says, "No, your son can play too." So they end up playing.

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They get to a hole with a big pond on it. Both Ted and his son hit the ball on the green, and Trump hits his in the water. By the time they get to the hole, Trump is lining up the kid's ball. Only now it's his ball and the caddie has switched it. The kid's like, "Daddy, that's my ball."

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But Trump's caddie goes, "No, this is the president's ball; your ball went in the water." Ted and his son look at each other confused, not sure if this is really happening. And Trump's caddie says, "This is the president's ball. I don't know what to tell you."

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According to Golf.com, Trump told Virtue that they could be cochampions, but on Trump's locker at the club, his plaque makes no indication that he shares the title.

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Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States and Faith's hero.{So many people have attested to his golf cheating that there is no question he does it. But It's OK If You're A Republican, right Faith?}