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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
I'm quoting this because it may be the most sensible thing you've ever said.
Yes I believe he's honest, not clearheaded about a lot of things but honest, not articulate at times when he needs to be but honest. I think he's actually nave. Faith writes:
The forces aren't against "him", per se. They're against muddle-headedness, inarticulateness and naiveté. Those are not qualities a President should have.
He knows there are all these forces arrayed against him... Faith writes:
In some instances, his stupidiity may come across as dishonesty but his actual dishonesty is also well documented. ... none of that makes him dishonest.Welcome back, Faith.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Those are personality flaws that you'd think a President wouldn't have, yes, but they are not in the areas of his Presidential work, just stuff his enemies keep trying to pin on him. He spends most of his time trying to keep his campaign promises and thinking about that sort of thing so he isn't tuned in enough to where the attacks are coming from. In a way he doesn't care, which I consider a positive trait, but it does leave him open to attacks when someone more tuned in might not be. No I don't think he's dishonest.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
He spends most of his time posting childish comments on Twitter. He's tuned into his perceived enemies much more than he's tuned into anything useful. He spends most of his time trying to keep his campaign promises and thinking about that sort of thing so he isn't tuned in enough to where the attacks are coming from.Welcome back, Faith.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You are pathetically ignorant of Christian theology and incredibly nave about your idea that you read what the Bible "actually says" which is egocentrically nave of you. You are insistent, however, and since nobody else here knows enough to answer you I have to take your nonsense as if it makes sense anyway. But I DO represent the theology of the traditional church, and you don't have a clue.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I disagree. He answers his critics, that's the point of the Twitter posts. I wasn't sure if that was a good idea for a long time but now I think it is.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
And yet you are the one who consistently runs away from discussions of the Bible because it doesn't support your ridiculous theology. But I DO represent the theology of the traditional church, and you don't have a clue.Welcome back, Faith.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Faith writes: But I DO represent the theology of the traditional church You do not. You represent your own beliefs which seem to be most closely related to Lutheran, a minority 16th century, version of European Christianity. I was in Greece over Easter; Easter is a very big thing there. Greek Orthodox is actually at least orthodox.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ringo Member (Idle past 432 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
His Twitter posts aren't "answers" to anything of substance. They're childish insults and name-calling. "Rocket Man", "Sleepy Joe", etc. are not "answers" He answers his critics, that's the point of the Twitter posts.Welcome back, Faith.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sorry but I do. My frame of reference is Reformed and the Reformation itself is an important influence in my thinking. Not Lutheran, but Reformed. I don't know what you consider to be "the traditional church" but to me it's based on today's Reformed theologians. R C Sproul, John MacArthur, lots more. None of it comes from "me," it all has a basis in various Reformed theological sources.
You confuse the formal Orthodox Church, Russian Orthodox or Greek Orthodox, with the ordinary term "orthodox" which simply means "true." The Orthodox Church is far more similar to Roman Catholicism and has nothing to do with my use of the word. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1465 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
We disagree.
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2285 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 7.2 |
No I don't think he's dishonest.
is a man who cheats on his wife honest or dishonest?It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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Tangle Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Faith writes: Sorry but I do. I know you do. But so what? Your beliefs are no more orthodox than any other claiming the name. And your usual attempt to re-define terms you don't like isn't helping.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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JonF Member (Idle past 188 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: |
Wow, so many lies.
Muller explicitly told Barr when Barr asked if he'd misrepresented the report in his four page note on its principal points that no, he hadn't. Muller said he was bothered by the media coverage but not that Barr had misrepresented the report. But the false story sticks anyway.
Sorry, the story is true. Mueller made it clear that Barr had misrepresented the report and the media had nothing to do with it.
quote: Trump WAS exonerated of obstruction of justice
Trump was not exonerated. Volume two contains hard evidence that Trump obstructed justice at least 10 times and would be indicted except for the DOJ opinion that the President could not be indicted while president.
Nevertheless they've been screaming for Barr to break the law and let them see the whole thing.
Wrong. The Democrats have been screaming to see the unredacted parts of the report that Barr can legally release to COngress. We're also asking that Barr and the Democrats request a judge to release the Grand Jury testimony. Whatever the judge decides the losing party will appeal and the Supreme Court will have the final say. If Barr refuses to join the request the Democrats may take further legal action. All lawful and common. Edited by JonF, : No reason given. Edited by JonF, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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quote: Christianity is nearly 2000 years old. The Reformation is about 500 years old and Sproul was only born 80 years ago. You have an odd idea of the “traditional church”.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4409 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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JonF writes: Faith writes:
Trump was not exonerated. Volume two contains hard evidence that Trump obstructed justice at least 10 times and would be indicted except for the DOJ opinion that the President could not be indicted while president. Trump WAS exonerated of obstruction of justice Your post completely refutes what Faith posted, but then more than 400 former prosecutors (at last count more than 500) weighed in about Barr's lies and Trump's lies, and yeah, Faith's lies.
”Multiple Felony Charges’: Ex-Federal Prosecutors Call Out Trump’s Conduct quote: quote: What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq
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