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Faith writes: Theology takes the entire book into account and you think a single quote should suffice. Just shows your ignorance. So far I've given you 13 quotes. But if there's a single message from Jesus's life and teachings it was about love - not just the love of his fellow disciples but neighbours, those of other religions, and even your enemies. Do as you would be done by. Read your bible Faith.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: You don't understand how the quotes affect each other in correct theology. “Correct” theology eh? Read the book Faith. Jesus's message is one of universal love - loving neighbours, believers of other religions and enemies. It's repeated over and over. It's not a matter of theological interpretation or context, it's unavoidable. Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Hey Phat, calm down, you sound as deluded and batty as Faith, spouting all that superstitious nonsense. Have you fallen off your wagon?
There's no Satan and no demons, just people behaving like idiots believing all sorts of gibberish that wouldn't be out of place in the middle ages.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Tangle Member Posts: 9509 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
Just as an aside.
I heard and academic say that in rich households black children were often kept as 'pets'. It struck me that in order to understand slavery that is very instructive - those white people really did regard black people as a different species. A lower form of life, probably somewhere between monkey and man over which they had dominion.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: But I DO represent the theology of the traditional church You do not. You represent your own beliefs which seem to be most closely related to Lutheran, a minority 16th century, version of European Christianity. I was in Greece over Easter; Easter is a very big thing there. Greek Orthodox is actually at least orthodox.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: Sorry but I do. I know you do. But so what? Your beliefs are no more orthodox than any other claiming the name. And your usual attempt to re-define terms you don't like isn't helping.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: that whoever kills a man shall be killed by man, because God made man in His image. And many hands make light work but too many cooks spoil the broth. Pick one.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: I suppose that sounds clever to some. It sounds wacko to me. You can pick the bits you want out of the bible - you've just demonstrated that you can show that it says you should kill people and that you should not. Pick one. But you know, the idea that Jesus would say kill is utterly absurd. But you'll still say it. Go figure, I can't.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: "Should kill people?" No, the Bible says we are to punish MURDERERS by death. That's not "killing people" in the indiscriminate way you are misconstruing it. If punishing murderers by death is not killing people, then I don't think I know what killing people means.
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GUILT AND INNOCENCE. Sheesh. Sheesh yourself.
Jesus never said we are to kill anyone. But he did not contradict the Old Testament either, where we are told that murderers are to be killed for their crime. “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone” Pick your verse.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: Sigh. I'm not going to bother. Unbelievers here have the nerve to pretend they know more of the Bible than the believers do. So continue in your delusion, I can't do anything to change anyone's mind here. It's the weirdest thing, atheists can read the same book as you do. And even weirder, atheists were often believers too so know exactly the same things. And one thing they know for absolute certainty is that the Jesus character in the book would NOT support the death penalty.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Faith writes: ...Here's Got Questions on the subject of eye for an eye Yup, just pick the stuff you prefer from that little book and away you go.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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The D-Day remembrance ceremonies was a very a very big thing for us here in the UK and France.
Trump was here partly to participate in them. He behaved characteristically badly just before he landed tweeting that the mayor of London was a “stone cold loser”. But as he absorbed our hospitality he mellowed and said some un-characteristically graceful things. Actually no-one could have survived the charm offensive he received and he physically saw the importance of nations working together on important common causes. I think the D-Day stuff actually made him think just a little bit beyond 'America first' isolationism. But maybe I'm just wishful thinking.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm. |
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This is totally out of order, please delete it.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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what's up Theo, you seem to be angry at the world?
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona "Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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