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Chiroptera
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Message 2866 of 2871 (852589)
05-14-2019 11:32 AM
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05-14-2019 10:35 AM


Re: Barr Appoints Prosecutor to Investigate Russia Probe Origins
And no one has yet mentioned how Durham's report will undoubtably be strategically redacted.

Hell hath no fury like a white man scorned. If you take nothing else from the Senate's confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh, take that much. -- Kai Wright

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Message 2867 of 2871 (852595)
05-14-2019 1:31 PM
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05-14-2019 11:32 AM


Re: Barr Appoints Prosecutor to Investigate Russia Probe Origins
And "appropriately" summarized by Barr.
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Message 2868 of 2871 (852638)
05-14-2019 7:30 PM


FYI
FYI.

From what I’ve gathered from some recent reading (below) on congressional subpoena powers facing executive privilege, both parties discuss the issues to see if any accommodation can be had before resorting to that third branch of government with which they are supposed to be equal. With 20 some subpoenas demanding documents this negotiation could take several years.

If an impatient House decides to go to the Courts that effort usually, historically, begins in the District court not the Supremes. Again historically, the federal courts have tried to keep such cases at arm’s length which means they want to think on it for a spell. For a long spell. Hoping the continuing discussions of the other two branches will result in some accommodation still before the court is compelled, as a matter of judicial temperament, to act.

Have a seat folks. This is going to take a while and may not be resolved before the election.

Trump and his legal staff are going to be in a pressure cooker and up to their eyeballs in briefs and position papers for the duration. Those negotiations will not be easy.

I would think that would make life rather difficult on someone running for president.

Congressional Subpoena Power and Executive Privilege: The Coming Showdown Between the Branches

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Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

  
Chiroptera
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Message 2869 of 2871 (853192)
05-23-2019 11:15 AM


Pelosi and impeachment
From this morning's New York Times.

Pelosi Pushes Go-Slow Strategy on Impeachment as She Goads Trump

Nothing new in this article, but sometimes it's nice to get a quick summary to remind us where we stand at the moment.

Basically, Pelosi has been trying to prevent impeachment proceedings from proceeding at the moment, preferring to let the current investigations run their course.

Pelosi wants instead to trumpet the Democratic legislative initiatives that the House has been passing. However, it's the Trump cult that has been crowding out that news from the media by focusing on the investigations.

She is also concerned about the newer members of the House that were elected from marginal districts. But some of these have been saying that they, too, are open to impeachment.

In fact, even some members of Pelosi 's moderate coalition are starting to move toward supporting impeachment as a reaction of Trump's "scorched earth" refusal to cooperate in any way.

Me, it's hard to say which would be strategically better for the Democrats, impeachment or not. However much I disagree with Pelosi on a lot of policy matters, I do have to recognize that she is highly skilled in the politics game, so I'm willing to trust she may know what she's doing here.


If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.

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Message 2870 of 2871 (853202)
05-23-2019 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 2869 by Chiroptera
05-23-2019 11:15 AM


Re: Pelosi and impeachment
Nancy Pelosi is the most politically adept person in the US at this time. I think the Dems should let her continue to guide them for now. I know it is hard to sit back, but the Democratic Party is not doing nothing. I do believe she is playing 3 dimensional chase while donnie is trying to put his socks on.

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

Edited by Admin, : Fix typos.

Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Chiroptera
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Message 2871 of 2871 (853328)
05-26-2019 11:15 AM


Paul Krugman on Trump's last tantrum
From The New York Times:

Trump Tantrums the Dems Out of a Trap

Krugman explains how it had appeared that Trump was finally ready to discuss an actual infrastructure policy, which posed a danger to the Democrats since we do need to invest in infrastructure -- desperately! -- so the Democrats would probably have to give him a policy win.

Fortunately (in Krugman's opinion -- I don't think it's so fortunate) Trump himself torpedoed the meeting, confirming once again how unfit he is for any public office.

Most notable quote:

And the attempt to portray Pelosi as out of control is so ludicrous that only totally deluded people – i.e., around a third of the country – could possibly believe it.

If this was a witch hunt, it found a lot of witches. -- David Cole, writing about the Mueller investigation.

  
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