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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There is no such thing as news any more, it's all made up gossip. Fake News. "Indictment in all but name?" Oh nonsense. If there had been anything to charge Trump with he would have been charged. Sheesh.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The facts of the report exonerate him. The report has no such authority but since it didn't charge him with a crime he is exonerated.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
This is ridiculous. The whole point of the Muelller investigation was to find cause for criminal charges. They found lots of stuff that had nothing to do with Trump and nothing to do with the campaign and they dealt with it. They prosecuted whatever they found to prosecute. They found the RUSSIANS at fault concerning the campaign but not Trump and not any of his people. We should be able to conclude that there was nothing about the Russian contacts that was in any way against the law so why are you making an issue of it? Why is anyone still making an issue of it? Mueller found no fault, why is anybody else? Either they are clueless about the legal situation or they just want to keep up the fiction that somehow Trump is at fault for something even if they have to make it up.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It was clearly stated that the policy against indicting a sitting President had absolutely no part in the conclusions of the report. If there had been guilt the report would have reported it in any case. Instead it found that Trump and his campaign people did NOT do anything whatever to "collude" with Russians, and kept the question of obstruction of justice wide open since he had no cause to accuse Trump of that either. Everything else is empty threats, gossip, hot air.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
It's something I've heard more than once and if I hear it again i'll track down the source.
The quote you give is convincing, however, but it gives me a completely different view of things: how cleverly devious of them to imply there are causes for criminal indictment but they aren't going to pursue them because of that sitting President policy. Yuck. Your lists I'm going to ignore because I know there are other interpretations of all that which of course doesn't interest you. I'll wait and see what happens in the next few weeks.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
There is no evidence supporting obstruction. It's all things that didn't happen, it's stuff Trump said but didn't do. And the things he did do didn't obstruct anything. It's all the usual phony stuff designed to whip up negative opinion against Trump.
You say I have to prove Mueller did intend to indict but I don't believe he intended to indict, I don't think he found anything criminal so there was nothing to indict Trump for. The bulk of the second part of his report is all the usual innuendo intended to feed the ravenous Trump maligners, not even anything that should have been in such a report. I hope Barr's investigation of the investigation finally gets at the truth in all this phony stuff aimed at bringing down Trump. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Sorry, there was a thousand-year hiatus along the main path of the Church from the seventh century on, in which the Roman pagan superstition had the political power to impose its false version of Christianity on the public. The traditional church did exist in the earliest years, and also continued in pockets of believers outside the RCC, but it took the Reformation to fully recover its doctrines. There have also been deviations since then but in recent years we've been having a revival of reformed teaching. Sproul and the other modern followers of the Reformation continue to support and define what the Reformation said.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Where did I say he intended to indict? I had no intention of saying any such thing.
"cover up" indeed. The cover up was the whole Mueller report itself, designed to overturn the election of Trump and to put suspicion on Trump to deflect it from Hillary who richly deserves to be prosecuted for collaborating with Russia and for obstruction of justice in actually destroying evidence of her misuse of classified information. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You seem to be using my quotes to mean the exact opposite of what they say. I'm saying he did NOT bring charges because there were none to bring. The point of the investigation would have been to do that where he found reason to but he did not find reason to. Therefore he had no intention of indicting Trump.
He had nothing to do with the Russians' efforts, which didn't succeed anyway. But Hillary DID collude with Russians against Trump in buying that bogus "dossier" and using it to try to defame him in an effort to destroy his run for President. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm leaving this whole mess up to the new investigation for the answers to all the relevant questions.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What those facts mean is open to interpretatiohn, best left for people who have the stomach and the authority to wade into all that stuff. I certainly don't have the fortitude for it. And most of what is presented here as fact is just lists and lists of stuff that is all open to interpretation, amounting in themselves to mere innuendo or gossip.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The report said there was no collusion. Amazing how Trump's enemies just ignore the truth about all that. Also, Trump was more open and transparent than any other President has ever been. He turned over thousands of documents for instance that he didn't have to turn over.
But I'm talking into a brick wall so I want to leave this to the investigators who I hope will get to the bottom of all the phony stuff.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I have other sources than yours. You are the one who just believes what your side tells you.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thank you, but I think Percy enjoys it. I try to avoid it and many times I can but sometimes I can't find a suitable substitute word.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's all deceitful talk. Did not establish collusion means found no collusion. But this kind of twistedness is why want to leave the whole thing to further investigation.
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